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Sometimes, these jokes just write themselves

June 22, 2007 | 10:30 am

And with the tension permeating through Laker Land these days, it probably wouldn't kill the blogosphere to have a laugh at the expense of the dude with a thousand "Big" nicknames (although it appears "The Big Ironic" is in on the punchline).  And speaking of laughs, this parody is good for a few.

As for the source of the previously cited tension, it's been pretty quiet on the Kobe front these days.  Some folks saying Kobe's a brat of Hilton-esque proportions, others claiming that's all irrelevant because it would be insane to punch his ticket out of Newport.  But all in all, not a whole lot of fresh (or even recycled) perspective making the rounds.

In "news potentially relating directly-ish to the Lakers," however, Kevin Garnett put the Kibosh on a rumored trade to Beantown.  Apparently, the notion of freezing his ass off while losing remains unappealing even in a brand new city.  Word around the campfire says he'd sanction a move to Phoenix, but it remains to be seen whether the Suns would part with Amare Stoudemire or draw the line at Shawn Marion.  Should the latter player not be enough for Minny, would KG try to sell him GM on a trade to the hated Lakers?  Or would KG remain a Wolf, perhaps opening the door for the Matrix in purple and gold?  Of course, until Jerry Buss gets an indication that Kobe wants to stick around, any potential moves may be on hold.

Oh, by the by, in case anyone's forgotten, there's a draft next week.  SI's analyzing Laker needs and making first and second round predictions.


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An EXCELLENT piece by the esteemed Sally Jenkins of the Washington Post on the Kobe video and on the the mercurial Bryant
himself: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/21/AR2007062102376_pf.html

The wool has been pulled from over people's eyes. The true Kobe is starting to be seen by the whole world.

Thank you, Sally Jenkins, for your truth-telling piece.

Kobe is using the pliant Bucher, again, for his tantrums. "Well, you won't trade me? I'll sit out. WAAAAHHHH!"

Kobe, PR king.

Who da hell is Sally Jenkins? I read alot of articles and I like the washington post. But I have never heard of Sally Jenkins in my life. Agin, I read the post quite alot, Sally Jenkins? Never heard of her.

Wow, "Who da hell is Sally Jenkins?"
Wow, wow you don't know who Sally Jenkins is?
My good man, she's Mrs. Jenkins baby girl. lol!

The Big Ironic, haha

KG at *ANY* cost. If Kobe leaves, KG will be the bridge to the future.

If Kobe insists on going to the Bulls, how about a 3 or 4 person trade?

1.
Bulls: Get : Kobe and Turiaf
Lose: Kirk Hinrich, Ben Gordon, Tyrus Thomas

With Thabo/Kobe/Deng/Turiaf/Big Ben and #9/Duhon/Nocioni off the bench, that's a good deal for the Bulls!

Minny: Get: Lamar, Kwame, Tyrus Thomas and Lakers #19
Lose: KG, Marko Jaric

Now that they *are* trading KG, this is as good as a deal as what they got from the Celts. Plus they get rid of one of their bad contracts (Jaric)!

Kwame/Ty/Lamar would fill out the front-court and McCants and Foye would be their starting back-court. Kwame is an expiring contract and they still have two top 20 picks in a loaded draft.

Lakers: Get: KG, Jaric, Gordon, Hinrich
Lose: Kobe, Lamar, Kwame, Ronny and #19.

That would give us:
C: Bynum, Mihm
PF: KG, Cookie
SF: Vlad Rad, Luke
SG: Ben Gordon, Mo
PG: Kirk, Jordan

We would still have our entire MLE, 2 draft picks, Vujacic, Jaric to pursue an athletic stopper at the 3 (someone like Artest or Gerald Wallace?)

That's a win-win for every one.

Sally Jenkins is a very good sports columnist. I haven't read this column yet, but overall she is above average.

sally is a welll respected sports journalist whot writes on a number of sports; she wrote the lance armstrong book.

FAkerz

I bet you were really exitced reading that article by "esteemed collague" Sally Jenkins. I bet your were probably yelling at your computer and saying "TELL THEM SALLY, Hell yeah!!! I love you. I haven't had a woman since my mother gave me a kiss on the check. Sally will you please marry me. I am desperate. All i want is to just kiss your a**. Please Sally. Me and you could go on a night walk and talk about how much we despise Kobe. How Kobe has runined our life, because he is so selfish."

You two would make a great couple anyways. She's just as ugly as you. I can see you two carrying your shrek look are like babies to protest against kobe.

I haven't ripped someone in a long time. Feels good. Sorry it came at your expense. Oh wait I am just sorry you are so bitter, you ingrate.

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAH

Sally Jenkin's last two columns about Kobe have been great reads.

great article, why anyone would want a selfish brat like kobe on there team i will never understand. he just ain't worth the trouble he causes.

JUST LIKE THE OLD SAYINGS "THERE IS CALM BEFORE A BIG STORM"

I hope the Big Storm will bring a big smile to Lakerland and not a devastating news that will be hard to swallow.

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To My Kobe Loving Bloggers:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2912075

“Another big factor: Garnett and Suns guard Steve Nash, sources say, have become good friends over the past few years, starting in 2005 when Garnett was one of the first players in the league to call Nash and congratulate him on his first MVP trophy.”

Notice how Garnett was networking with Nash and now it looks like KG will hook up with Nash if possible. This is the difference between kobe “I should have been the MVP” bryant and a true MVP in Garnett to call and wish Nash well. I don’t see anybody lobbing to get kobe?? I don’t see reports where someone on PHX’s roster is openly lobbying for a kobe trade. As a matter of fact, I bet guys on the PHX roster is lobbying against a kobe trade. I’ll stay again, kobe is on an island and the dude’s only got himself to blame for his self-inflicted mess. I hope kobe’s got a good family and friends support structure. When his less-than-stellar NBA career is over, nobody’s going to care, not even so-called kobe loyalists. You guys will jump on the LeBrick bandwagon soon enough.

The draft may be a good one... but will it be a difference maker? The way Mitch and the Buss’ are handling the bad press lately they better think quick and get a real piece of work to upgrade the team.

Kevin Garnett and Jermaine O’Neal are both fantastic additions to the team and will be good for at least 4 more years- what else do you need to know? Zach Randolph is a great inside out player that might understand some new discipline under Phil. Rashad Lewis is a great player also but almost too much like Kobe. His talent would be great to see come alive at the end of games though and I think he might have more clutch in his game defensively than a lot of people give him credit for. Jason Kidd on any team for the next 2-3 years is a no brainer. I love all these guys but their salaries are huge and it pretty much has us picking up role players from the D-League and hopefully in the draft. We need to be in the mix now to help our team before the summer gets too far along. Players need to move and adjust, get it done, Mitch.

I think we might be better with some projects (bad-boys) like Artest, Bonzi, Magloire, Telfai, maybe even Webber and just see how much we can get out of them. All those guys come with baggage but all have a huge upside when you think about how much they could improve if in a system that is ready to let them ball and play hard.

I think Phil needs to take a page out of Don Nelsons book and learn to adjust and allow players to play to their strengths more. The quickness of the team is an issue to worry about also. We need huge improvement at the point and we just might see out own hard-working Farmar step up. The defense he plays is a weak attribute, so we may not have enough size or consistency with him as a starter. Michael Peitrus or my guy Monta Ellis would be great additions. It is all about taking chances and the bad boys of Artest and Wells could help us a lot when you think about how much our bench didn’t help all year. Last year at this time so many of the bloggers were convinced we were good enough to win 55 games and challenge for the title is was hilarious. This season played out pretty poorly and many players performed worse at teh end than the beginning, especially Andrew Bynum.

I think Kobe’s outburst has made more fans aware he doesn’t want to be the only guy on a team than can be counted on for consistency every game. Our team is hurting in chemistry already so why not take a chance on the misfits of Artest and Bonzi. I truly think we need a big man that can catch the ball and rebound every game, and a point guard that will go for 10-15 a game and hold his own on defense. Why is it so hard to find players like this? The Lakers need to make a move and soon.

Beast, "To My Kobe Loving Bloggers:"
Beast I knew there was still some good in you. Now renounce
the dark side my son and become a Kobe Lover like me. Use
the force Beast and channel your inner KOBE LOLl

Kobe gets thrown under the buss again!

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Kobe Bryant is the:

Big Whiner
Big Pluto
Big Charlatan
Big Loser
Big Malcontent
Big Narcist
Big Rat
Big Snake
Big Mambo
Big Mambo#8
Big Mambo#24
Big Tito Jackson
Big LaToya Jackson
Big Faker
Big Blamer
Big Finger Pointer
Big Du-mass
Big Backstabber
Big Pippen Wannabe
Big Dominic Wannabe

Kobe Disciples are:

Kobe Apologist=Kobe's Toilet
Mitchell=Kobe’s Agent=Jerry McGuire
LakerTom=KobeTom
Troy=Al Sharpton or Jesse Jacson

larry

nice. very funny. i'm glad we can have a good laugh, it's all we're going to have for a while.

In that esteemed Sally Jenkins article, I can point out at least five misrepresented fact in the article. She is not that great. And If she wrote lance armstrong book or whatever, maybe she should stick to cyclying. I hate when jornalist use facts and misrepresent to present it as truth. Its very sickening. Especially when its the "Washington Post," they have significant power in this country. What they write is very powerful. And people like Sally Jenkins should use facts right, not when its conveinent to make a point.

Well since we are on Kobe calling out a teammate, which he really did not do. I remember reports coming out that Micheal Jordan called Kwame a "fagg*rt", nobody chastised Micheal for it. Mind you that Ishiah Washington just got fired for using that word. And he wasn't even using it directly to the gay person on the set. But it was all fair game in Micheals and his slew of jornalist follower world. And ever since then people said Kwame has never the same again.

Kobe says its okay to give up Bynum for Kidd, it means Kobe is calling him out? But the most important person in this all "controversy" is Bynum. Will he run away like Kwame did and let what a veteran say about him hunt him like for all his career. All will he prove Kobe wrong. And seeing the way he challenged Shaq back, I believe Bynum will respond with more will, dedication and focus in his game.

KL Beast, "JOURNAL OF NICKNAMES FOR KOBE AND KOBE DICIPLES"

Beast, Beast you must not let the dark side dominate you. Use the Force Beast.
Let Jedhi Kobe show you the way. I sense that good in you straining to
come out. You can do it Beast. just turn from the darkside and send one
positive Kobe post and you to my friend can become a KOBE LOVER. lol!


Beast, "Larry nice. very funny. i'm glad we can have a good laugh"

Thank you Beast for participating in BE KIND TO EACH OTHER DAY
I don't mind if you rip me apart, but just rip me apart KINDLY Ha, Ha LOL.

Once again Kobe is the reason Shaq got sent out of town. Sally did you even think once that the owner made a huge mistake, along with a big baby trying to embarrass his boss while running up and down the court in Hawaii- Mr. Buss and Kupchak sent away a franchise player without using their brains. Shaq should have died a Laker at all costs. Kobe may not have gotten along for years with Shaq but they had quite a few championships and contended every year they were together. The point is winning cures everything. The loss of Shaq was and is still the fault of the front office, just like losing Kobe will be. The money these owners spend on frivolous jive is beyond our imagination and yet they forget to hire professionals to get a Kobe and Shaq to sit down and work out the wreckage of their own mess. I think Jerry West could have kept them together.
It is al history now and Kobe is behaving foolishly so his stock is going down and quick, I admire his sincerity and his desire to win but I hate his 'all about me' attitude. Bring a solution to the table Mr. Kobe Bryant, get a player on the phone and work it if you want to make a difference. You- Kobe, will be blamed by the press for anything that does or doesn't happen anyway. How does a guy with this much time in the league and been through so much turmoil not learn to guard his image. What an idiot. Great ball-player, an absolute idiot when it comes to thinking out loud.

If this team is going to make a trade it better be soon, Bynum is a joke in comparison to Kobe and what he can offer the next 3 years. I don’t even see Bynum being as good as Mutumbo, he could become a good defensive player but this year he exposed himself. He reminds me more of Owlakandi. Big men are tough to find but the 18-20 year olds in this draft all have more going for them than Bynum. Mitch and Jerry you have to get to the bargaining table and soon!

KL,

do you have a job?

seriously. just wondering.

Minny wants to trade KG.
KG wants to go to a warmer climate.
KB wants help.

HOW/WHY ARE WE NOT IN THE KG DISCUSSIONS YET?

yeah seriously, can we talk Laker draft????

Personally I'd love to take Rudy Fernandez from Spain at this pick...i read about this guy in SLAM and he had a good bio. Apparently all those good teams are big on this guy like the Suns and the Spurs.

He's listed as point guard but some describe him as a Ginobili type player who is a scoring play-maker.

If they dont take him, than I'd see Nick Fazekas. That guy is rebounding machine and scores good too. He's got a nice midrange. I think he's a tougher Troy Murphy with better rebounding and more size. He's also a true power forward which the Lakers only have Turiaf. Also 4 years of college doesnt hurt--heck he would be older than Sasha and Bynum

The second round is all about who's left, but if Jared Dudley is around, the Lakers have to take him. He's an athletic scorer, better than Craig Smith at BC. The Lakers need some guys who are athletes and can score in the paint and drive too.
If he's gone, they should take Afllalo like everyone likes or maybe Alando Tucker if he's around.
One guy that not a ton of people are talking about is Rayshawn Terry. I'm a big UNC fan and watched this guy really knock down shots, throw down some dunks, and also play D. He's bigger than Afllalo, maybe without the mean streak. That guy should be available perhaps as low as no. 48.

If not, than they could take Curtis Sumpter from 'Nova who played on that good team with Allan Ray and Randy Foye. He could be like a less athletic Michael Finley.

I'd love to see Rudy Fernandez 6'6" SG or Nick Fazekas 6'10" PF, Dudley 6'9" F, Sumpter 6'8" SF

those guys are an upgrade over Sasha and Cook.


As i have repeatedly posted hopefully Kobe gets traded so he can come back and drop 83 on theLakers. Not only is Kobe good enough to do it but you know if he gets traded he's going to
1. Will his new team to the playoffs to prove a point and
2. Go off on the Lakers for 50 every times he plays them particularlly at Staples.
Please Lakers trade Kobe so i can go to a new blog and be free of KL, Fakerz and the others who can't see pass the hatred they have for Kobe. I'm hoping for a Kobe for Steph, Jamal Crawford, Jared Jeffries and the midget that won the dunk contest. Then Kobe can ball with David Lee, Curry and Steve Francis (or Isiah can trade Stevie & Malik Rose for a PG or a SF.

Check this trade out

Lakers send Kwame Brown and Mo Evans to the Jazz for Kirilenko. Lakers need some serious help with their perimeter defense, and when kirilenko is properly utilized hes good for 15 points a night. Utah showed in the playoffs that they need a tough interior defender and an athletic swingman to elevate their club to the next level.
What do you all think?l

can somebody answer this question for me? i read this blog alot. somebody asked me if the lakers at any point during this season, actually had a chance tom win the title or havce a shot at the title? i didnt know wat to say, so i decided to ask some of u guys. could u please answer?

KLBeast,
"JOURNAL OF NICKNAMES FOR KOBE AND KOBE DICIPLES"

DUDE THAT'S CLASSIC!

I LIKE TO USE THE "BIG PLUTO" ALOT. I JUST WISH THE LAKERS HAD A PRIVATE ROCKET SO, WE COULD TAKE HIS BLUFF "ALRIGHT KOBE, YOU WANT TO GO TO PLUTO" AND LAUNCH HIM INTO ORBIT WITH A ONE WAY TICKET TO PLUTO!

That was awesome WOW
Bynum can use this to grow and get angry or continue to be mediocre.

I doubt any significant trades will happen and we might have to listen to Kobe's crying all year.
Step up Lakers your leader is calling you out, so get
to the gym and shoot 1000's of shots and hundreds of free throws everyday. Every man should be at a camp on the courts in the gym or getting tons of rehab while still working on whatever their body allows them to do on the court. If these guys put the effort in that Kobe does we might have had a chance last year.

I heard Shaq is learning how to stetch for the first time in his career...hmmm Do you think Kobe stretches?
Who do you think wants to win more Kobe or Shaq?
Why doesn't Mr. Buss or Mitch release anything about the Kobe situation?
When Kobe says 'insider' who is that?
Does anyone truly think this team as is can compete for a championship?
Kobe and KG = too much $$$ spent, plus we still need a ballhandler=Farmar???

Sell the farm and appease the whiner, we are gambling on a 7 footer that just doesn't have it.

KLBeast and Gunner24?

Can you guys get a room and "Classic" each other all night? That way the rest of us are spared of your trash?

hariyahu,
"Can you guys get a room and "Classic" each other all night? That way the rest of us are spared of your trash?"


DO YOU WANT TO GO TO PLUTO? WE CAN PUT YOU ON THAT ROCKET TOO?

Pete Maguire,

Amen brother - AMEN!!

Kobe - NOW is the time to prove your worth. Get on the phone with KG and convince him to come down to LA. All you have to do is get KG to say "The Lakers are my preferred choice". That's it. If you *truly* want to remain a Laker, now is the time to act.

Saying Kobe's a brat is like calliing Nelson Mandela a brat for wanting to get out of prison.

Like Kobe, Mandela was accused of sabotage.

Accoring to his wikipedia entry, Nelson became figure of hatred among many South African whites, supporters of apartheid, and opponents of the ANC. Kobe is a figure of hatred among a few vociferous and ignorant bloggers.

In South Africa he is often known as Madiba, an honorary title adopted by elders of Mandela's clan. Kobe is known as Mamba.

Kobe poops gold.

MAX,
"Please Lakers trade Kobe so i can go to a new blog and be free of KL, Fakerz and the others who can't see pass the hatred they have for Kobe."

IT'S NICE TO HEAR KOBE APOLOGISTS BE TRUTHFUL WITH THEMSELVES. I ADMIRE YOUR COURAGE TO COME OUT OF THE CLOSET. BUT DON'T WORRY, IF WE TRADE THE BIG PLUTO WE'LL MAKE SURE YOUR LIPS ARE ATTACH TO THE BACK OF HIM ON THE WAY OUT THE DOOR.

KLBEAST,

YOU FORGOT ONE MORE. "BIG DRAMA QUEEN"

I Miss,

Yes, let's talk draft. Rudy does look good, at least on paper. But I'm petrified he might turn out to be the second coming of...SASHA!!
If Acie Law or Crittenton are there, I would rather take them. I wouldn't mind Thaddeus Young slipping all the way down either. But something tells me that we are shipping that #19 out come draft time :)

Wow,

Talk about another Kobe $$$$ eater.

Blame Buss!
Blame Shaq!
Blame Kupchek!
Blame the crazy white girl!

Blame Sally Jenkins!!!!

Wow you Kobe fans need to go away. You guys will point a figure at ANYBODY that says anything wrong about Kobe even if you don't know who the hell they are.

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Attention Bloggers
Rick Beucher of ESPN was just on the Dan Patrick show with
Patrick Mac Enroe and repeated that Kobe said he will sit out the season if he is not traded.
In light of these developments Mamba24 must reaccess my position.
Edwin, Mike T. Generic TIM-4-Show tha Show What say you?

As much hell as Bucher catches on this blog, he was right about what Kobe's initial non-ultimatum ultimatum, because Kobe came out and said that, and more, himself.

He was even more explicit on the Dan Patrick Show today. Of course, he said Kobe had traveled to Barcelona to deliver the news to Buss personally that he played his last game in a Laker uni. Bucher says the Lakers are underestimating Kobe's demand, and that Kobe would prefer not to sit out, but is prepared to do so if it comes to that.

Please, please, please, Laker fans. Don't get ahead of ourselves. Forget the draft, free agency, and any other scenarios involving a focused, content Kobe OR a Kobe that will come to his senses. The true blue Laker fans need to start thinking rebuilding. The "Kobe First, Laker Second" fans may need to save their cash for a new jersey.

Sad. Just as I was getting used to the idea of Kobe leading the team, this happens.

KLBeast,

here's a couple more.

"BIG IRRELEVANT"
"BIG EARL MANNEGOAT"

Wow--another Kobe -will you marry me lover

Who CARES ABOUT MJ? What does that have to do with Kobe Bryant.

You know why Jordan got a pass on all of that? Because they WON GAMES WON TITLES. If Kobe ever did what Jordan did he would get a pass too, but he hasn't done anything to show that all of that baggage he has has been beneficial. I don't care if Jordan punched Will Perdue or whatever, at least he got his team somewhere.

Kobe's baggage is just mean spirited, not in the interest of Jordan's teammates. I mean look at Jordan. Cartwright, Paxon, Kerr are still his buddies and he helps out his guys like Sam Vincent. He's like a family relationship with his teammates that he could talk trash. Do you think any of Kobe's teammates will ever be asking him to hang out after he's gone?

How many guys now chat with Jordan? LeBron, D-Wade, Carmelo have all said that they talk to Jordan. Will Kobe talk to anyone when he retires??

Kobe's just a jerk. Jordan was a jerk with a purpose, but Kobe's just a jerk. Stop making comparisons. You're dumb if you cant see that.

I dont even like Jordan, I was not even a fan of his. But even I can see this.

GUNNER24,

Anywhere as long as I don't have to respond to ASININE comments like yours :)

Sally who?
Who the hell is she. I leave in the DC metro received the post regularly in my office I never heard of this Joker. It's amazing how Kobe is helping everyone get noticed... Is the Mamba great or what? I never knew that there was so much sport (writers) around. I wish there was a law for diffamation. Oh wait! there is, they just don't give a crap as long as people like (you know the ones in our blog) are reading it

Lifelong Laker fan here. Kobe likes to talk about the Truth on KB24.com. But the real TRUTH is that Dr. Buss has done everything in his power since he's owned the team to have a winning franchise. How many other teams have been in the playoffs 26 of the last 28 years? Dr. Buss loves the Lakers and Laker fans. Unfortunately, Kobe only loves Kobe. Always has, and always will. You think Kobe cares about you? Ya, Kobe cares about winning, but only winning for Kobe. He doesn't go out and win because of that beautiful Lakers name across his chest. He wins so Kobe can get some attention. Never once has he realized just how lucky he is to be a Laker. Do you know how many players would KILL for a chance to wear the purple and gold? But with Kobe, it's about Kobe, and no one or nothing else. Is Mitch Kupchak a lousy general manager? Sure. And Dr. Buss should can him. But real players with real heart who really love their team and fans don't bail out of a situation like this. They rise to the challenge and show leadership, not cowardice.

So send Kobe to Chicago. If Kobe doesn't like Dr. Buss, how do you think he's going to get along with Reinsdorf who broke up Jordan's Bulls? When things don't work out there, and Kobe's 32 years old, he'll be crying like a baby again and demanding another trade. Plus, we'll have the added advantage of watching a player with real heart - LeBron - beat him in the playoffs every year.

I've been a Kobe apologist for the last five years. Ballhogging early on: he's 20 years old and the most talented player in the league. Extra marital affair with a girl in Colorado: Hey he's just a young man doing what young men do. Problems with Shaq: Shaq's fat and Kobe's a young man who wants to win. But no more. Kobe's not a kid anymore and he has to start living with his decisions. And he's decided he doesn't want to be a Laker anymore. Say it with me: "He doesn't want to be a LAKER anymore." What kid growing up playing basketball didn't dream of wearing the purple and gold for life? Well, Kobe's about to find out what it's like to be on any other team not named the Lakers, and the only teams these days who can stomach that are teams to which he is not headed.

So let Kobe go be a Bull, or a Memphis Grizzlie, or whateve the heck he wants to be. Or better yet, let him just go play HORSE on a court by himself. For me, I'll stay true to my team. Lakers for Life.

And that's the REAL Truth. Can you dig it? CAN YOU DIG IT?

kobe apologists and loyalists,

what MOTIVATION, if any, does laker management have NOW to bring in some elite talent that kobe is crying for, when kobe HAS SAID ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS THAT HE never wants to suit up for the lake show again???

and say the lakers swing deals that bring in the likes of jermaine o'neal, kevin garnett, and/or ron artest. IF KOBE STILL WALKS AFTER THESE DEALS ARE MADE, what will you say then?

i've been a longtime supporter of kobe.

however, his recent outbursts turned me off to the point of no return.

how am i (or any true laker fan) supposed to support a laker who really doesn't want to be here?

if you are a kobe fan, THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT. just own up to it.

just please quit claiming you are a true laker fan when you truly drum to the beat of kobe, and only kobe.

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the lakers should be in no rush to trade kobe.

let kobe cry, let kobe sit out, let kobe not collect his loot for the next two years. let kobe show his face around la while the lakers are playing without him.

kobe seems ok with doing this. so let's see if he really is ok with it come this fall.

time this kid (he remains a kid) learned a lesson.

maybe (i doubt it) sitting out and watching the lakers carry on WILL MAKE THIS MEGALOMANIAC realize that he isn't the center of the universe. LIFE AND THE LAKERS WILL CARRY ON WITH OR WITHOUT HIM.

who knows?

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the lakers should only trade kobe if they are essentially ripping off the other team for his services.

if not, keep him on the roster for the next two seasons. let him walk in two years.

keep lamar and company, and we'll give it our best shot without kb24.

and kb24 will have to watch true laker fans embrace lamar as their new leader/star. i wonder how he will react to that?

i'd much rather see that than watch the phony kobe pretend that he plays for the lakers when he truly plays for himself.

enough is enough.

as i wrote earlier, if you are a kobe fan more than a laker fan - that is more than fine. just own up to it and quit calling yourselves laker fans.

peace to all.

At this point I do not feel the Lakers should pull the trigger on any major trades unless Kobe will assure them that he is staying. I say this because I am begning to believe this whole situation has become less about winning and more about trust. We can go ahead with the smaller deals, but moving Lamar, Andrew etc should be placed on hold until they know for sure. Why make a move that requires Kobe is on the team if he says I am leaving anyway. We can not afford to lose the present AND the future. Tha is why I am leaning more toword trading him at this point.

MH

Apart from putting forward the same old lie denied by Buss himself (that Kobe ran Shaq out of town), Silly Sally shows a remarkable lack of perspicacity when she says this:
"Do you think for a moment that Lakers owner Jerry Buss and General Manager Kupchak don't want to win?"

Everyone wants to win, but if you don't make an effort -- on the court or while lolling around in a luxury box -- wanting alone isn't worth much. The problem a lot of people have noticed -- but which, in spite of Kobe's insistence; Sally doesn't see -- is that Buss doesn't NEED to win to keep his market responsive, the cash flowing and the young ladies in the passenger seat of his car (or any other appropriate domestic furniture). The only thing he needs in Staples is to put on a show. And there's one entertainer that does it for him night in and night out (and even in the off-season!). And Buss isn't the only one who benefits. The whole freakin' league does.. Why do the Lakers sell out every arena they traipse off to? Does any fool think that it's because crowds are attracted to purple and gold the way moths are attracted to flame? (Why doesn't the greatest BB dynasty of all time -- Boston -- do the same thing?). Look wWhat happened when Stern gave orders to Kobe not to show up at Madison Square Garden. The Knicks fans screamed thieir displeasure. They felt cheated!

Kobe is Buss's man -- not his main man, his unique man -- and his perfect money-spinner. Sally, for your information, Buss doesn't need a winning team. Like Carl Denim, he's goit King Kong in chains (a six year contract). And what happens when the flashes start popping (i.e. reports quoting an insider)? The Mamba breaks loose and all hell with him. The city's in a panic, but this time it's LA, not NY.

I still don't understand how all these puritanical pundits trying to promote a form of moral law that seems suspiciously close to slavery (love your plantation owner because without him you'd be rotting in the jungle instead of contributing to a superior civilization) don't understand that this isn't about personal moral qualities or being a "role model" (I though Barkley had quelched that one long ago)/ It's about business, on the one hand, and heroic pride on the other, something close to hubris, true enough, but isn't that what distinguishes tragic heroes? Kobe may be the only dude in sportswho can get away with this. The Sallys;, Plaschk's, Ventres and other abject journalist appealing to the heartless mob should be thinking more about why that's the case than kissing up to the plantation owner and announcing a moral code that neither they nor Buss would even consider respecting.

Larry (Mamba24),

it's gonna be alright brother.

as an avid kobe fan myself, it was tough/strange for his antics to finally push me beyond my boiling point.

a great basketball player. a champion. a true joy to watch on a basketball court.

however, this great bball player, this champion, this joy to watch IS A BIGGER FAN OF HIMSELF THAN ANY OF US COULD EVER BE.

sucks to write that.

reality bites.

i have no hatred or bitterness towards kobe, just disappointed (borderline devastated) with him.

i thought kobe was a laker through and through, thick or thin, nba champs or bubble playoff team.

yet when the lakers sputter a bit for a couple of seasons, kobe is now demanding a trade before giving the fo a chance to improve the squad this summer.

what a jackass.

how are we support kobe bryant, when kobe bryant WANTS NOTHING TO DO WITH US?

a simple question.

have yet to see any kobe apologists/loyalists/so-called laker fans answer it.

 

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