Extra! Extra! (4.11)
If history proves anything, it's that anything can happen. Thus, the lesson Phil Jackson is trying to impart on his students when it comes to the possibilities of a last minute fire catch. That being said, the odds of gaining last minute mo' increase dramatically if all the pieces are in place. And with a 270 lb. piece's future remaining cloudy, the Lakers' prospects in the playoffs follow suit. If you're a believer in rankings created by various... media... pundits, the tide currently ain't rollin' the purple and gold's way.
Considering the K Brothers' show deal with Nike is worth 20 mil, we're surprised to hear Kobe's getting low balled like this. Is it because he officially withdrew from the MVP race? (FYI. Voters are still allowed to put his name on the ballot, so don't panic.)
Reuniting of the 2006 UCLA backcourt, anyone?



Sadly, Kobe will not win MVP. Though personally, I feel he deserves it for his job well done this year.
He may not have put up 81 in a game, nor 62 in three quarters... but he put this team on his back and with a recovering knee, carried us across the finish line again in the playoffs.
I know making the playoffs isn't what we want.
But just consider how tough Kidd has had to work to make the playoffs in the East... WITH Carter... and how tough it's been for KG, who like Kobe, has no one else on the team to rely upon!
This just goes to show you the greatness that is KB24.
Posted by: Tim-4-Show | April 11, 2007 at 08:48 AM
Smush Parker take note:
"We all have to step up to the plate," Turiaf said. "I'm just trying to answer the call. I feel very blessed to be part of the team. I am so happy that Coach Jackson has enough faith in me to put me out there at such a crucial time. I just want to make him happy."
- Ronny Turiaf.
Posted by: Rence | April 11, 2007 at 09:08 AM
Kobe just can't win. He scores 81 points and averages 35.5 points for a season and can't win the MVP. He has the most consecutive 50 point games since the great Big Dipper and he's not even considered in the conversation for MVP. So when he see's that the MVP game is fixed and gracefully says he's not interested then he's criticized for that. To hell with them Mamba, you want revenge I'll tell you how to get it. Tell Kwame to get his a** ready to start playing some serious playoff ball. Tell Smush not to worry about a contract extension you'll personally guarantee a raise for him, you are after all the "GM" Tell Lamar to play until that shoulder falls off and then keep on playing. Tell the rest of the team crunch time is here, if you want me to pass you the ball then hit the damn shots when I do pass it to you. Tell them don't be afraid to take the shot and to stop passing the ball to you with 2 seconds on the clock so you have to repeatedly take wild a** shots lowering your average. Finally remember YOU ARE THE MAMBA. The most deadliest and swiftest striking animal on the planet earth. To hell with this Mr. Nice Guy crap. Go out and destroy these teams damnit! You are THE MAMBA and you are a member of THE LA FREAKIN LAKERS. SEEK AND DESTROY.
LAKERS TODAY LAKERS TOMORROW LAKERS FOREVER
GO SMUSH GO, GO KWAME GO, GO LUKE GO, GO LAMAR GO. GO RONNY GO, GO FARMAR GO, GO MCKIE GO, GO SHAMMOND GO, GO SOCKS GO
GO LAKERS GO!
IT'S SHOW TIME!!!!!!
Posted by: Mamba24 | April 11, 2007 at 09:21 AM
if i were phil i will bench parker in a heart beat. rotate those three young guards.
but the lakers still need an inside game. both defensive and offensive games.
GO LAKERS!!!
Posted by: apujac | April 11, 2007 at 09:22 AM
Well regardless who the NBA names the MVP, we all know who the real MVP is. Lets also not forget to along with his acheivements this year, he also has the #1 selling jersey, so of course, he is to my knowledge, the most popular and most liked player in the NBA. But most importanly, when you have fans from Boston, chanting MVP towards a guy in a Laker uniform, that outta be a clear message sent towards the NBA and it's so-called voting panel who will unfortunately vote in Steve Nash or Dirk Nowinksi, two guys who of course had good years and good team records, but if they were both in the same situation like Kobe is, they wouldn't even have made the playoffs...Real Talk!
This just shows how valuable and how good Kobe Bryant is to this Laker organization and to the NBA. So in my book, this is how I break it down. A man who is obviously loved and respected by the fans nation and worldwide + A man who single handedly put his team in the playoffs while dealing with injuries and drama throughout the whole season from his teammates + knowing the fact that there isn't another NBA player, especially a Steve Nash or Dirk Nowinski whom if was put in a similar situation, wouldn't have had been as successful as Kobe = Most Valuable Player. So David Stern....Recognize!
Posted by: Ron | April 11, 2007 at 09:30 AM
To clear up a bit what I was saying on my last post, the way I see it is very simple.
1. If Steve Nash was not in a Suns jersey this whole year, the Suns would still make the playoffs.
2. If Dirk Nowinksi was not in a Dallas jersey this whole year, the Mavericks would still make the playoffs.
3. If Kobe Bryant was not in a Lakers jersey this whole year, the Lakers would NOT make the playoffs.
BINGO BIYATCH!
Posted by: Ron | April 11, 2007 at 09:44 AM
Sorry,
I have hard time believing this team passing any opponent in the playoffs.
Actually, The way things are going, maybe we might not even reach the playoffs!
Anyway, I think all this mess is a good thing. Dr. Buss by now, knows this team is not going anywhere anytime soon, so our chances to see major changes next season are much greater.
Kevin Garnett/Kobe Bryant 07! bring it on!
Posted by: gugy | April 11, 2007 at 09:47 AM
Ron, "So David Stern recognize"
Oh Stern recognizes all right. But remember you got to have that good guy bad guy crap in every competition and unfortunately Stern has chosen Dirk and Nash - who really are good guys - as the good guys and Kobe as the bad guy. It makes much better theatre. Funny how the leagues so called "future" Lebron and Wade have fallen from grace. By the way what do these NBA players have in common? Lebron James, Dwayne Wade, Alonzo Mourning, Amare Stoudamire, Steve Nash, The Glove, Rasheed Wallace, Ben Gordon, Jason Kidd, Agent Zero, Vince Carter etc. Give up? They all agree on who the best player in the NBA is. Kobe Bryant. They also all agree on who should have won the MVP last year THE MAMBA!!
LAKERS TODAY LAKERS TOMORROW LAKERS FOREVER
GO LAKERS GO
Posted by: Mamba24 | April 11, 2007 at 09:47 AM
Boy, I know I'm gonna get flamed for this, but Ron, we have no real idea who the pmost popular player is in the NBA, and we really can't base it on jersey sales. No doubt, Kobe would be one of the contenders, but since none of the other contenders, (KG, Shaq, Wade, LeBron, Melo, AI) changed theirjersey numbers, those sales aren't based on a level playing field. If Kobe DIDN'T have the highest selling jersey this year, you'd know he's not really a contender for that title.
I'm not even sure how'd yoyu be able to tell something like that, unless you ran a huge poll of bnasketball fans.
Posted by: Michael A | April 11, 2007 at 10:05 AM
i think the lakers need to sign a big man since kwame' still out.
Posted by: xtro | April 11, 2007 at 10:27 AM
Im probably one of the biggest kobe fans around. I've loved him since the days of the utah airballs. I think he's the greatest player now and I believe when it is all said and done he will have accommplished enough to vault ahead of jordan and wilt in the greatest ever arena. But you guys are crazy. MVP? we're barely 500, and might not make the playoffs as it is (I believe we will, and hope to get it together and stun the suns), but c'mon even kobe doesnt believe this dribble about the MVP. Maybe in January when we were 26-13 and not missing much of a beat without lamar/kwame, maybe even a hint of an idea when he exploded for his historic streak, but when its all said and done, (i hate to say this) both nash and dirk have had better seasons than kobe. True injuries and inept personnel have held kobe's team back significantly-I mean he plays with frikin smush and cook for god's sake, his 3rd option (luke) cant score half the time, and I fell the most integral part to our hopes/success is kwame frikin brown(never thought id live to see the day where I actually like kwame and watch games thinking...if only kwame were playing). I mean that says alot about what the guys go to work with, but the bottom line is I'm with kobe--hes no MVP this year, not bec hes not great enough, but bc this laker team on many nights is an embarrassment. I think kobe got jobbed out of the MVP twice already, 2003 and 2006 were both clear cut MVP years. The fact that he failed to win those two years, says he probably wont ever win it unless he averages 60 and leads the lakers to 80 wins.
Neways I digress, kobe doesnt deserve this trophy because his team is very good, and if it was given to the best player on a crappy team garnett would have 10 already. I mean seriously they suck, but if take kg off the team they might not ever win a game. ricky davis?? corey blunt?? marko jaric?
Lets go lakers, get kwame back, make a push 4 some Mo' and lets roll into the desert guns blazing and use some passion and heart to give it to the suns. You never know what can happen in the playoffs, and we've got the best ever in wearing our colors.
GO LAKERS!
Posted by: Jandro | April 11, 2007 at 10:28 AM
It isn't offense that is the Lakers' problems. They can score. They are averaging 100+ points. It's their defense. It all starts with Kobe. Like Tex Winter said, Kobe plays too much of a zone. And that affects the team. If other guys see their leader not going b@lls out on defense, then they won't do it either. Kobe is by far the best offensive player in the game. All he needs to do is take defense seriously. And so do all these lazies on the Lakers! Defense is what is killing the Lakers. But they've been playing like this ever since Shaq left, so I doubt anything can be done about it anymore. If they won't listen to Phil then they won't listen to anyone.
Posted by: LayLow | April 11, 2007 at 10:35 AM
I have only 2 problems with Kobe and ironically if he fixed these 2 problems, he would probably have a better chance at MVP.
1) Stop complaining to the refs whenever a call doesn't go your way. Move on. He is always talking like Phil and "Moving On" and Living in the moment, but when it comes to getting fouled, he doesn't practice what he preaches.
2) Work on becoming a 50%+ field goal shooter. He shoots way too many off balance shots with 3 guys on him. While he can make more of those than anyone in the league, it still hurts his shooting % and it also hurts his team when he doesn't make it. His teammates made the NBA for a reason. They can make layups. There is no doubt that Kobe needs to score on this team, but he needs to make it a challenge to do it with half the shot attempts he normally does.
These two things will sky rocket this team's success and increase his MVP chances.
Posted by: zen | April 11, 2007 at 10:49 AM
For those of you who have been so critical of Mitch K, who seem to think that if he would just try a little harder, the other teams in the league would roll and trade their superstars for our benchwarmers. Many of you called for the Lakers to sign Bonzi Wells, despite his troubled past. (Same with Ron Artest.) Please read the below excerpt from ESPN.COM
"HOUSTON -- Houston Rockets guard Bonzi Wells will sit out the rest of the season and his future with the team is uncertain.
Wells was fined and placed on the inactive list after he didn't show up for Monday's game in Seattle, the team said."
Posted by: exhelodrvr | April 11, 2007 at 10:55 AM
If the Clippers win tommorow and Smush Parker lets Jason Hart win the battle, if is official that we ar edone for the year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't care if we do win our last 3 games and we win the first round. The bottom line is that this team has a point guard that reflects exactly the way the team plays. It is embarrassing to be a Laker fan right now when the Smush Parkers of the world can say and do whatever he wants.
Character wins championships and Smush represents us. This sucks and we suck right now until Phil decides to make the change.
JJ
Everybody has a chance in the playoffs, but if Smush is our point gurad, then we are doomed at some point. The league is very talented and it doesn't have time for the bullcrap and that is the type of attitude that respesents this team and it will continue to be like that until the switch is mad.
Posted by: Zakee | April 11, 2007 at 10:58 AM
Zen,
I agree with most of your post. A Kobe off-balance long jump shot is almost never a better choice than a shot by Smush/Lamar/Luke/Cook/etc. There are times when he gets stuck inthat position, and needs to do it. But there are too many times when he puts himself into that position.
The one correction I see:
"They can make layups" should read "Most of them can make layups."
Posted by: exhelodrvr | April 11, 2007 at 11:00 AM
It's nice to read where the coach is saying similar things to what I am saying. While one's on here have criticized me all season as being too freakin' optimistic, Phil Jackson says..."Hey, teams have caught fire extremely late before and actually been pretty successful in doing so." Is it really being overly optimistic, and IF it is, what's wrong with that? Would it be wiser to be negative or positive?
I mean, it surprises me how many people on here are already throwing in the towel, even though the coach nor players are. I wonder how you all would feel if Phil had threw in the towel back during that 6 or 7 game losing streak? I can't imagine or understand the mentality of a fan that would rather sit back and take defeats instead of continuing to play. Based on that mentality, the Grizzlies should have packed it in and lost the rest of their games this season after such a poor start. I guess the Heat should have packed it in too. Even New Jersey and Orlando kept playing when they had fallen out of the playoff race. You don't give up and you don't accept defeat as the end of the road. You say that the Lakers need better talented players. What message does it send to possible new players for a team and its coaching staff to simply drift out of the playoffs in order to increase their draft options? I wouldn't want to play for a team that gives up because they aren't the best. You keep playing and good things wil come your way.
Some act like that where the Lakers are right now is where they will always be. This is 2007, They are 3 years removed from being in the finals and 5 years removed from winning a championship.
Those blaming Mitch for the Lakers woes or simply blaming the whole Lakers management, should look at the fact that the problems didn't start 2 seasons ago. This did not all start going this direction the summer Shaq was shipped out of town. The handwriting was on the wall after the Lakers finished their 3rd title. The next season, the age and overall limited window remaining for this squad was being exposed. The defeat that the Lakers met in the second round in 2003 was a glaring view of just how far they had fallen. If you want to get upset about decisions. Get upset about the decisions that were being made back then. When the Lakers saw themselves being hit hard with either having too old of players, or too young of players...they decided to bring in two more really old players. That was when they had the shot to do something better. Before you blame Mitch, it should be noted that Shaq, Magic, Kareem, Phil, and even a few others were all mentioned as strong supporters for both Malone and Payton. After one year, it was clear that it wasn't going to work. The same injuries and problems because of age and styles was going to become even more of an issue the following year. Now, while you all are crying for complete overhaul now....the Lakers made a bold decision to do it that summer. They totally revamped the team....and because of the nature of such a bold move...it set them back. However, it also gave them an opportunity to build a more lasting period of success. When your oldest active player is 28, you have a lot to work with. Timing is crucial with having long periods of success. Consider if MJ's prime had started at the same time as Magic's, neither would have won as many titles. Truth is, MJ came into his prime at the close of many others prime periods. He had room to shine without as much opposition.
The Pistons, Spurs, and Heat's windows are going to start closing really soon. It won't be long before they will be forced to make some really hard decisions about the future of their teams. If the Lakers keep moving along, they may be right back on top at just the right time to dominate the league.
Posted by: JJ | April 11, 2007 at 11:01 AM
Well with all this talk about bogroll...I mean blog roles...I got to thinking about which current or former players blog members would be...
MIKE T - Charles barkley...brash, bold,opinionated with a tendency to get embroiled in fights.Barkley failed to bring home the bacon and so far Mikes boy Kwame has too.
EX - Vinnie Johnson aka the microwave...Vinnie would come off the bench and get things going in the right direction or quietly take over.Usually in few words Ex does the same.
ZAKEE - Dennis Rodman....statistically speaking Rodman focussed on rebounding...Zakee does the same only focussing on...well you get the picture
EDWIN GUECO - Scottie Pippen... versatile in conversational topics Edwins always there ready to back someone up or chime in when needed with his own take
FAITH - Ronny Turiaf - always positive and enthusiastic and capable of delivering a gem or two
FAKERSZ - Vernon maxwell... the guy was lost...
GUNNER24 - Bonzi Wells...the guy is lost
THASHOW....Chauncy Billups...no fear...loves the big shot
SMUSHCALADE...Kevin Garnett...constantly refuses to bail on a sinking ship
RESPECTMYAUTHORITAH...Robert Horry...You forget he hasnt retired then he pops out from nowhere and nails one
MAMBA24...Tony parker...its all kind of like a whirlwind
and of course...
KIWI...Kobe Bryant...,posesses serious game,notable for sheer quantity of posts.Both are misunderstood and bilingual. hahaha
Posted by: Kiwi | April 11, 2007 at 11:02 AM
Ron,
"1. If Steve Nash was not in a Suns jersey this whole year, the Suns would still make the playoffs.
2. If Dirk Nowinksi was not in a Dallas jersey this whole year, the Mavericks would still make the playoffs.
3. If Kobe Bryant was not in a Lakers jersey this whole year, the Lakers would NOT make the playoffs. "
Your comparison is too simplistic. It is a lot harder to take a playoff team to an elite level, than a non-playoff team to a "barely making the playoffs" level.
I agree with Jandro that Nash deserves the award this season. Had the Lakers done better, and/or had Kobe played defense better this season, then he would (arguably) deserve the award.
Posted by: exhelodrvr | April 11, 2007 at 11:04 AM
FakerZ!!! Answer the question!!!
Which player has led the Lakers with assists/game in past 10 years and feed Shaq the ball the most in the Championship seasons.
Oh Yes!!, when Shaq was in foul trouble or on the bench to prevent 'Hack a Shaq' which player stepped Up.
Yes might have shot the badly in the finals but Shaq was averaging less than 50% throughout the play-offs at the line, these are hardly MVP finals numbers.
Also during the play-offs and finals in 2004, Kobe as the Shooting guard averaged over 5 assists per game and got more than the guard Gary Payton, so don't tell me he did not pass the ball.
Please invest some time and watch some basketball games and then read a book about basketball before replying.
But if you insist, please keep posting because I need a good laugh after a hard day’s work!!!
Aaarrrhhhh!!
Angry_Laker
Posted by: Angry_Laker | April 11, 2007 at 11:06 AM
Who cares about Kobe winnign the MVP.
The only thing that matters is winning!!!!!
Why are you guys debating on something that doesn't matter when you are on a losing team. Who cares if Kobe gets MVP. Everybody in the world already knows that Kobe is the best player in basketball. What everybody is waiting for from Kobe is the victories and that will not happen until the LAker get a 3 point shooter at the point.
Craig Hodges, Kerr, Paxson and even BJ competed for the 3 point contest.
Then there is Smush who literally STUNK UP the allstar game festivities. I mean I knew we were doomed when Smush respesented us in a skills instead of Farmer.
It is like Phil feels sorry for the guy and tries to fit him into an equation that just doesn't not work with this Laker team. If he doesn't Switch it will be another wasted year for the Lakers when I strongly feel that we can win a championship this year with the players that we have.
Posted by: Zakee | April 11, 2007 at 11:09 AM
Michael A, "Boy am I gonna get flamed for this"
Hey Mike I don't think you will. Of course the reason Kobe changed his number is so more people would buy his jersey with an added result that he could claim he was the most popular. But Mike when you are playing in an opposing teams arena and fans are chanting KOBE MVP, KOBE MVP I think that should tell you a little about his popularity. This has happened in at least 4 arenas that I am aware of. Also to have the Lakers all time hated rival the Boston celtic fans yell this should surely tell you something. Not to mention the greatest players in the NBA at this moment all agree the Best Player in the NBA is Kobe Bryant and the player who should have won the MVP last year is also The Mamba. Also the " Greatest Player of All time" Michael Jefferey Jordan when asked who he regarded as the best player in the NBA of todays players also said Kobe Bryant. I'm sure the K brothes can find that quote somewhere in one of the articles they wrote. So I don't know what other empiracle evidence you need or I can give you. See that didn't hurt did it?
Posted by: Mamba24 | April 11, 2007 at 11:16 AM
Michael A,
You can't just determine an MVP candidate based on jersey sales and yes, I agree with you on that, however, I was only using that as a example on how popular the guy is. Based on popularity, Kobe would be up their to NBA fans. I understand you can't base an MVP vote on popularity by itself, but I believe it has a little pull towards the voting process...or it should, especially when the guy backs up his game. But when I hear or see the word MVP (Most Valuable Player), than I'm looking at the guy who is most Valuable to the team to where without him, the teams success would be close to nothing. Lets not forget that Kobe has proven time and time again, his ability to win games and to make a big difference. I'm not saying that Nash and Nowinski don't make a big difference as well, but those guys also have a reliable supporting cast whereas Kobe does not. And the Lakers are still going to make the playoffs this year. Anyway, that is just my take.
Posted by: Ron | April 11, 2007 at 11:18 AM
IT"S pre off season, and posts about trading the back end of the Laker bench for KG are in bloom.
Posted by: Vman | April 11, 2007 at 11:20 AM
ANGRYLAKER...um... Ron Artest
Posted by: Kiwi | April 11, 2007 at 11:21 AM
Hey!!!!
We have been sitting on a gold mine and didn't even know it.
Guess who is the league leader in field goal percentage:
Aaron McKie
I guess he has been strategically held in reserve until playoffs. Things are lookin' up now!
Posted by: C.S. | April 11, 2007 at 11:22 AM
Forget Kobe!
The entire Lakers team should be MVP....because they make every other team look good.
BRYANT/GARNETT '07
Posted by: GO Rakers | April 11, 2007 at 11:25 AM
LayLow & Zen,
I have watched the Lakers closely since the arrival of Phil Jackson (that's when I started watching all of their games on NBA League Pass. What I have observed is that Kobe is playing very similar defense to what he played back then. The difference now is that the Lakers don't have the other pieces to help make the defense work together. Some were saying it during the days with Shaq....Kobe was getting defensive awards based on benefitting from the presence of Shaq in the paint. He was benefitting from Shaq's presence, whereas he doesn't have that anymore. Think about the defensive pressure Rick Fix use to put on players, or how Ron Harper, a young Derek Fisher, and a healthy Brian Shaw use to hold down the point guard. Another thing to remember is that Kobe has always been a better on the ball defender than off the ball. He does his best when matched up against a player with the similar style of himself. Do you recall how he use to totally pressure AI? It was because AI was shooting most of the time when he controlled the ball. Notice how he has had moments of great success against LeBron and Wade. It is because they were dribbling and shooting. It is those players that work off screens, or move a lot without the ball, that give Kobe trouble. Much like taller, long players give him trouble on offense, very active players give him trouble on defense. Watch every game against the Pistons and you will see how he has trouble with both parts of that...on offense against Tayshaun, and on defense agaisnt Rip. That has always been that way....IT JUST WASN'T AS NOTICEABLE.
I'm not trying to take up for Kobe, just pointing out that it's always been there. We have a tendency to overlook things when the end result is a win. Everyone overlooks now, how the Lakers use to mail it in for 3 quarters as a habit, and then turn it up in the fourth. When they were superior offensively and defensively....it was easy, but times have changed. Teams started catching up to them really that third title year. In some eyes....the Kings lost the championships....not simply the Lakers beat them. In looking back, the following year should not have been much of a surprise. The Lakers were a slow team, and the others were picking up speed. NBA is all about cycles of styles. The current cycle and style has caught the Lakers on the short end. It won't last though. It is just another period of time.
As far as Kobe's shooting percentage....it is but it isn't those off-balanced, triple teamed shots that kill his shooting percentage. What kills it is the inability of the others to effectively fill their spots and move the ball quick enough in order to not put Kobe in bad situations. How many times during the game does he receive the ball with 5 seconds or less on the shot clock? No wonder he ends up taking bad shots at that point. You fail to recall that during that 50-point outburst, Kobe was shooting well above 50%. Plus, the nature of him shooting more perimeter shots, is going to automatically effect his shooting percentage. Is it any surprise that normally the best shooter are ones that are shooting around the basket? Tony Parker was second in theleague 2 seasons ago, yet how many mentioned that he was a poor outside shooter. Those baskets were all layups. You give Kobe those same lanes to the basket and he'll get those same shooting percentages.
As far as the complaining goes, I couldn't agree more because I never saw need to complain when I played ball. I am from the school of thought that things have a way of evening out if you just keep your cool. I've noticed where two halves have been completely different in the way the calls were made. Things like that happen so there is no need to complain so much.
Posted by: JJ | April 11, 2007 at 11:25 AM
Kiwi on Blog roles,
Hey I got to give it to you, that was damn original. You know when you think about it this blog has some fantastic talented writers. Mike T and his Journal.
Edwin with his astute observations. J.J. with some of the deepest analysis that I have ever read. EX, with his inciteful yet sarcastic commentary, Go Rakers with his bandwagon, Faith who no matter what keeps the faith for all of us and Kiwi the original. Oh Yeah and AK and BK who just might possibly be the best damn writers in the business. Thanks all of you, You keep me going here at my IS shop on the down days and the insane days.
Posted by: Mamba24 | April 11, 2007 at 11:27 AM
Kiwi,
So who are AK and BK?
Or is it too soon to tell? Do you need to wait and see the big picture of how this blog matches up with other blogs, before you make that call?
Posted by: exhelodrvr | April 11, 2007 at 11:28 AM
Laylow
What you are asking Kobe to do is Smush's job.
Kobe is not Raja Bell or Bowen. His energy is Spent on putting pressure on the defense. Smush's job is not to be like Kobe, but to be more like Bowen and Raja. We already have a guy that can score whenever they want. What we need is a lock down defender and a smart player that understands the game of basketball. We have 1 on the bench, but for some odd reason Phil won't start him. Then we have a shooter that also can pressure the ball alittle bit.
Hey at least they bring something to the table. Smush brings nothing to the table and I can't see how JJ tries to make it seem like everything is cool and that Smush is not a HUGE HUGE HUGEproblem right now and has been since earlier in the year.
And also JJ if you were onthe post last week somebody that I don't even know went back in July when I said that Smush Parker needs to go.
I thought that everything would be good this year with Farmer and Shammond, but for some odd reason Phil just keeps going with Smush.
Well if he goes with Smush this year, then we 0 chance of winning a championship. By going with Sasha and Farmer you up your chances alot.
Posted by: Zakee | April 11, 2007 at 11:31 AM
Tim said: "Sadly, Kobe will not win MVP. Though personally, I feel he deserves it for his job well done this year."
Tim, my definition of an MVP is not someone who scores a bunch of points on a crappy team. An MVP is someone who is vital to a TEAM's success, not INDIVIDUAL success.
REPOST
Gino said: "If kobe had a teamate that was a threat to the opponent in conistant basis he will be the MVP of the league every year becuase they will win over 55 games every year"
Gino, kobe did have that teammate (shaq) and the supporting cast (fox, payton, malone, etc), but he decided he wanted to be the man, win MVPs, scoring titles, so he got his wish. kobe's winning plenty of INDIVIDUAL acolades at the expense of the Laker organization.
Kiwi said: "K and fakerz your history is a bit off it was slightly more complicated than Kobe pissing Shaq and PJ...I know idiots have trouble dealing with complex senarios but like you did back in remedial class when someone asked you what 2 + 3 added up to...just keep quiet and it will pass."
Kiwi, this is what I know. When someone can't argue the facts, they make personal attacks. I'll let it pass.
Toni said: "To faker (the right name for yourself) & KL0044, you can't call yourself fans to bad mouth one of the best players in the NBA as much as you do. Every player has his faults, but to be Laker fans you guys take it to the extreme. Why don't you both became Clipper fans, since you hate Kobe so much"
Toni, I'm a Laker fan, not a kobe fan. I would have been supportive if kobe had put the team above himself. I believe kobe was very instrumental (either directly or indirectly) in influencing management to choose between kobe or shaq. It should have never gotten there, kobe/shaq/Laker mgmt should have worked things out and we'd be talking about championships instead making excuses of whey kobe's team sucks.
Albert said: "Shaq's attitude towards Lakers sucked big time towards the end."
Albert, my attitude would suck too if I had to work with a jerk like kobe. The Laker org should be winning additional titles with shaq and retiring his jersey when shaq retires, not thanking shaq by siding with selfish kobe.
Angry_Laker said: "P.s FakerZ & KL0044 please, please, please post more of your material because its sum of the stupidest and funniest stuff I have read in years!!! For we can only laugh because it obvious you have no clue about basketball!!!!"
Angry, I say again. When someone can't argue the facts, they make personal attacks. That's my response.
Posted by: KL0044 | April 11, 2007 at 11:33 AM
Kiwi,
I'm a little offended that I didn't make your list! I
Just mark me down as Michael Jordan.....I never accept defeat because I always have something left in the tank. I singlehandedly changed the blog because of my will to win!
Posted by: JJ | April 11, 2007 at 11:33 AM
Important note.
How would you feel if you play your but off and change the game only to see someone as garbage as Smush come in to finish the game and lose the lead????????
Think about it?
Most of you would say well how do you think Smush feels?
The answer to that is don't you guys think that he has been givin enough chances already. I mean what else can the guy do? His game is maxed out. No more potential there to do anything new. If anybody the only person that I could compare Smush to is Dennis Rodman and if Rodman was on Smush's team he would have probably dropped an elbow on him for not getting over the screen and tryying to blame the defense on him all the time.
We need somebody on that team with some BALLS. Nobody has any gunts to call Smush out in front of the team and that sucks
Posted by: Zakee | April 11, 2007 at 11:36 AM
Kiwi....another thing......no matter how old my post get around here, or how tired I seem to get.....I keep coming back!!!!
Posted by: JJ | April 11, 2007 at 11:36 AM
Kiwi....How about me. Who am I compared to.
JJ- You should write a book man!
Posted by: Ron | April 11, 2007 at 11:38 AM
cheers mamba...I agree loads of talent on the lakersblog team...you can sometimes question the chemistry though haha
no seriously though I think its real cool all the different input,styles and angles people provide...its a great setup.
Posted by: Kiwi | April 11, 2007 at 11:39 AM
JJ I had you in mind...I just couldnt actually think of anything that wasnt a bit weak...I was actually thinking Nash becasue youve got so many fans that vocalise their appreciation of your style etc....
and no...nobody gets to be MJ!
Posted by: Kiwi | April 11, 2007 at 11:43 AM
KIWI...Kobe Bryant...,posesses serious game,notable for sheer quantity of posts.Both are misunderstood and bilingual
I knew you were "The Gunner" towel boy.
And I will take Bonzi Wells status anyday because he's on a winning team. Since I'm all about the team succeeding and not one player.
And let it be known the only reason "The Gunner" change his number was to get even more attention added to his inflating ego.
Look at the AD : One half....One shot clock (blah, blah, blah)
He basically letting you know there's not enough balls to go around because he's out for himself and the amount of scoring titles he is trying to win.
And suppose we get KG. Just thinking about that. His attempts would be around the same as Lamar attempts. Don't think The Gunner 24 is not going to let KG know who needs the ball too.
Posted by: gunner24 | April 11, 2007 at 11:44 AM
Zakee,
I have never said that Smush needs to go. Obviously you have missed what I have been saying all along. Smush needs to go, and he will be gone at the end of the season. However, at this time, he is still a Laker and he needs to start. It would be a bad move at this point after having this guy start for two seasons, to bench him down the stretch at the point of the playoffs. I like Farmar and believe that barring a summer acquisition of a point guard, he will be the starter next year. However, it takes time for that to work. As good as Tony Parker has been, he didn't come in and start his first season. He was ready by the following season, but if you recall there was serious talk about the Spurs bringing in Kidd.
My point is that, for now, the best option is starting Smush and getting the most we can out of him. Do you honestly think that the Lakers will get any further starting Farmar in the playoffs than they will starting Smush? Farmar is a rookie, and is already showing great signs of being a very good point guard, but trying to put him up too high too soon will hurt him.
In conclusion, lets get through the post season this year and then be concerned about the point guard position this summer. Smush won't even be an issue then.
Posted by: JJ | April 11, 2007 at 11:45 AM
JJ,
Instead of Michael Jordan, I have a better name for you. How about Smush Parker....Simply because your full of crap!
Just Kidding. Haha!
Posted by: Ron | April 11, 2007 at 11:47 AM
Smush is not the worst guard in the NBA.
For example he is ranked 153 out of 175 in free-throw %. See, he is better than 20 some players...
Seriously, looking at Smush's stats the last few days I have become decidedly under-whelmed. Honestly, I liked him as a Laker before, and I felt all season that you members of the’ ‘start Farmar bandwagon’ were just taking a contrarian’s position for the sake of it.
The argument "Smush is the best the Lakers have" rings hollow when you look at his numbers. Face it, among starting PGs, Smush is dead last in numerous statistical categories. Last. How can the Lakers do worse? The concept that Farmar wouldn't do as well (or as bad) is just that, "a concept"; since it has never been tested. Why is this?
There are all sorts of reasons to rationalize why to start Parker (he doesn't come off the bench well, he is the best the Lakers have etc). However, knowing he is the worst starting PG in the League (based on objective stats and subjective opinion), and now looking back, why has Parker started all of the games this year?
Posted by: C.S. | April 11, 2007 at 11:49 AM
Kids, the MVP is not a popularity contest. If it were Kobe might have a chance.
Zakee- Why do you think 9 rings continues to start Smush "sucks" Parker? I know AK and BK think there are no better options but I disagree. You dont even need a point guard in this system. You need someone who can play a little defense against quick guards, and make a few shots.
Posted by: Laker Lover | April 11, 2007 at 11:51 AM
Thanks for the quote Rence, good stuff from Ronny T. He's gotta be resigned pronto! Now there's a man that values that jersey and works hard for it. People forget that he signed less to stay with the Lakers after his heart surgery (though we did pay for it, but still). He's also been heard to say he wants to stay a "Laker for life." Go Ronny!
LOL Kiwi. Much props to the blog roles. That should go up there in Lakerville hall-o-fame. Next to the Kwame vs. Mihm, Smush vs. Sasha/Farmar unfortunately, but equally genius lol. Good job!
Posted by: Faith | April 11, 2007 at 11:52 AM
this idea of the MVP being decided by how a team would do without a certain player is ridiculous. If that were the measure of the MVP then Paul Pierce proved this year that he is the undoubted MVP, the celts couldn't win a frikin game w/o him. In the east, if he were healthy all year, they could have snuck in possibly. Does that means he's in the MVP discussion... Heck no! Neither is Garnett, whose team wouldnt win 10 games without him. For the MVP award, the TEAM must achieve some success, and these Lakers have failed. I'm with Zakee--who cares about the MVP, Kobe sure doesn't. It's about righting this ship and making our playoff games meaningful. I mean cmon, my first playoff tickets ever, 4 rows back in game 4! It better not be over by then Lake Show. I expect a game 4 like last years!!!
Lets go lakers!
Posted by: jandro | April 11, 2007 at 11:53 AM
KL 0044...
'When someone cant argue the facts they tend to make personal attacks...I'll let it pass'
I agree...but the statement was so ridiculous it wasnt worth responding to...however I did anyway on the other thread
Point is...there were not alot of solid facts when it came to PJ,Kobe and Shaq...just years of working closely together small battles ,big battles and egos clashing...you wanna take one guy and blame him it strikes me as quite simplistic...on top of that Kobe who was still a kid when there others were grown men (ones called the daddy and the other the zen master for f&ks sake) if he was difficult maybe they should have handled him better....
many different ways to look at the situation thats all i was trying to point out with plenty to back myself up I might add...
Posted by: Kiwi | April 11, 2007 at 11:55 AM
With the coach not believing his team can win a series, LO needing surgery, Kwame hobbling and Kobe facing a summer of exhaustive fun with USA basketball, looks like the CLippers may beat us to the off season. Lucky.
Vlad Radmidlevelexception, back for his 6 mil, now has an extra injury to blame the air balls on. Probably won't cut him any slack here.
Maybe a Gary Vitti tape job on the Kwam and a Vlad sighting will be just the medicine this team needs to shore up the defense and come back from the dead. It's all been part of Phil's master plan from day one. Or this team will give us a few more moments of playoff excitement before bowing out in the first round.
Posted by: Vman | April 11, 2007 at 12:00 PM
Ron.....How about making me Dominique Wilkins.....The Blog Highlight Reel!!!
Or what about Karl Malone.....I always deliver another quality post!!!!
Kiwi....Don't give me Nash...please. What good are getting all of the awards if deep down people don't really think that I deserve it! LOL!
Zakee.....as far as Smush goes....can you please give it a rest? I'm wondering what you will be doing come summertime. Smush will be gone and seemingly you will no longer have anything to comment on. Will you just become the blog mute....LOL! Posting messages.....but never actually typing any comments!
Posted by: JJ | April 11, 2007 at 12:04 PM
Gunner24
I dont know if Bonzi is any team at all... I think they finally turfed him from what Ive been reading...I could be wrong...but you are right Bonzi has always been the ultimate team player...in fact Im surprised they are not giving HIM the MVP award for his leadership abilities...
Gotta admit...Kobe changing his number was a clever move...made someone rich...and all the sports articles say is hes got the highest selling jersey in the NBA without including why that might be....way to get some free publicity, sell some nikes.,and brainwash everyone into thinking you are cool and ok to like again..with the end of his shoe contract almost up why not?...this had everything to do with image and money...not ego.
Posted by: Kiwi | April 11, 2007 at 12:05 PM
Kiwi...on second thought.....are you telling me that EVEN as a blog character, nobody can meet MJ's standards????
Sometimes you guys make him seem like he is perfect! LOL!
Ron....here's another one....How about making me Joe Dumars....I always seemingly have strong defense, and I can actually provide some solid offense as well. However, I am an even better member of management! AK/BK....keep that in mind incase you ever need some help with the blog in the future....LOL!
Posted by: JJ | April 11, 2007 at 12:07 PM