Chris Mihm Is Healthy Enough to Eat Lunch
At practice this afternoon, I happened to catch a glimpse of Chris Mihm in the weight room, carrying a Styrofoam to-go box. While I cannot confirm said box indeed contained his lunch, the shape of the box combined with the time of day (approximately 1:15 p.m.) leads me to that conclusion. So it's good to know he's eating. As for playing? Don't count on it this year. The situation isn't the same for Brian Cook, who is doing what he can to promote healing in his injured ankle and get back on the floor. While the rest of the team finished up practice, Cook hit an elliptical machine next to the court to try and maintain his fitness... therefore making himself an easy target for media. So if you watch the news tonight, look for Cook talking about his health while working out, unintentionally contributing to the world of seminal exercise/interviews currently occupied by Marc Cuban's treadmill talk and the granddaddy of them all, T.O. in his driveway. (By the way, Cook won't play Thursday. As for a target date: "I'm trying to get back as fast as I can." Not something easily marked on the calendar. My guess is next week.)
Kobe seemed in good spirits after practice. Not surprising, really. After all, I scored four points in two pickup games yesterday at the gym, and was pretty proud of myself, having likely hit my quota for the rest of March. In Kobe's last pair, he's dropped 115. That's smile-worthy. And while he's aware of the potential history (it's been 20 years since someone went for 50+ in three straight games) to be made Thursday in Memphis, Kobe said he was more concerned about the team continuing to build momentum so hopefully he won't have to. Download kobe_bryant_3.20 on hot streak, team momentum.mp3
Still he's aware of the history, and says he's honored to be a part of it. More in these clips about getting the roster back to full strength, and why he's been more aggressive in the last pair of games.
Download kobe_bryant_3.20 on history, getting wins.mp3
Download kobe_bryant_3.20 on working hard, gaining momentum.mp3
Phil Jackson had to visit the dentist after practice, leaving Kurt Rambis to answer questions. Like Jackson and Kobe, Rambis emphasized how important it is for guys to be back and rounding into game shape heading into the playoffs. The soft schedule provides an opportunity to make that happen. As for Kobe's hot streak, Rambis said that over the last few games P.J. has asked Kobe to come out hard, and is certainly capable of doing it again. What the Lakers don't want to do is count on Kobe scoring 50+ a night so they can win. Download kurt_rambis_3.20 on health, Kobe.mp3
I asked him about the incident with Andrew Bynum in Sunday's game, and if it was at all worrisome. Rambis said Drew apologized to Jackson, and it's basically water under the bridge. Not all 19 year olds come into the league groomed like LeBron (my words, not his), and Rambis agreed with the notion that sometimes things will happen that remind us all of Bynum's age and relative immaturity. This was an example. Download kurt_rambis_3.20 on Bynum incident.mp3
L.O. talked about Kobe (he's about winning, not points), and his health (getting back in the flow, playing through pain), along with the importance of not underestimating teams like Memphis and NO/OKC just because they're under .500. Download lamar_odom_3.20 on Kobe, health, schedule.mp3
Finally, I watched Sasha Vujacic shoot from all over the court. He must have taken upwards of thirty jumpers and missed only twice, confirming why he is said to be possibly the greatest practice shooter in the NBA. But maybe it's just a time-of-day thing, rather than a game vs. practice situation. Perhaps Sasha is just money from say, 12 to 3. If so, look for a big game against Phoenix on Sunday, April 8th. It's on ABC, so the start comes at 12:30.
BK



I thought Sasha was an 11:00 shooter? P-Jax own words I think, so the 12:30 start probably won't help him much, but don't bet against him in the shootaround!
Posted by: J. Walter Weatherman | March 20, 2007 at 04:31 PM
Great stuff as usual BK,
Man I wish Sasha could translate that shooting into game situations. Things would open up more and we'd be a better team.
Posted by: Fan of the Mamba | March 20, 2007 at 04:46 PM
Maybe it's because of Sasha's shooting but I looked it up and we're undefeated on days between games.
I think you guys are actually an important part of Bynum's maturation. How the press reacts to his occasional petulance will help him to characterize it. If he becomes embarassed by it, he will learn not to repeat it. If the press enables him, he wouldn't have to learn that. Of course if you over press the point, he could go on a 3 state killing spree, so keep it within reason, but the press does play a role...
Posted by: Mannie Jenkins | March 20, 2007 at 05:34 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSToE8pCoS0
I love the Mamba :)
Posted by: Paul Lee | March 20, 2007 at 06:25 PM
And my favorite of them all. For those of you that say Kobe's not clutch check this out......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU7JZeVkTrg
Posted by: Paul Lee | March 20, 2007 at 06:38 PM
I've always liked Gary Vitti and have thought he was an excellent trainer, but I've been doubting it this year. Of course, the injuries are not his fault, but every ankle injury this year (with the exception of Kobe) has turned out to be worse than anticipated, and in the case of Kwame and Walton, much worse than anticipated. Now Cook, who was supposed to be back by now, will still miss the next game even with all the time off??? You have to question the rehabilitation, don't you? The only reason why Kobe's ankle did not turn out this way is because it is Kobe and he takes things into his own hands. He didn't even sleep the night of that sprain in December doing exercises all night long. Somehow I don't see Cook, Walton, and Kwame doing the same. They probably look at it as more as time off than anything. But seriously, what is Vitti doing or NOT doing to contribute to this?? Any thoughts?
Posted by: Long Live Chick | March 20, 2007 at 06:47 PM
Yo "Long Live..."
I was wondering the same thing - although my feeling is that maybe Vitti has fallen behind the times a bit with advancements in rehab or what have you. He's been the Lakers trainer forever, so obviously he has done a decent job in the past, but maybe there's something he's not incorperating due to lack of awareness or sticking to an old method or something that is holding our guys back... it definitely does seem weird that our guys have had a) trouble with intial diagnosis and b) trouble coming back on time, which also makes me wonder about c) conditioning and preparedness to help avoid injuries in the first place, which is where Vitti should really be earning his $$$. I hope it's all just bad luck, but you gotta wonder sometimes...
Posted by: J. Walter Weatherman | March 20, 2007 at 07:02 PM
BK,
"After all, I scored four points in two pickup games yesterday at the gym"
Yeah, but you were probably only counting each basket as one point, right? That would make the Kobe-BK ratio 14.4, which is much more respectable than the 28.8 you initially indicated.
Posted by: exhelodrvr | March 20, 2007 at 07:11 PM
Sasha is the worst player in the NBA, hands down. Everytime Phil puts him in I am in shock. Bring back Jimmy Jackson.
Posted by: Zack | March 20, 2007 at 07:19 PM
Worst players in the NBA:
G - Sasha Vujacic
F - Mark Madsen
C - Michael Olokowandi
I challenge you to find worse!!!
Posted by: Korey | March 20, 2007 at 07:38 PM
BK,
Great article..........HOWEVER, Why use LeBron as the 19 year old maturity standard?
Not all 19 year olds come into the league groomed like LeBron (my words, not his)
Just in case you forgot Kobe was 19 when he started in the All-Star game....the youngest in NBA history.......Not LeBron. So Bynum has the best example right on his own team........I hope Bynum is using Kobe......don't you?
Will the Kobe hate ever end? ha ha
Posted by: pfunk36 | March 20, 2007 at 07:42 PM
yeah, give bynum-the-kid some time. but i hope he become a full-time beast next season offensive and defensive-wise.
as for kobe, he's my man. always be.
it's laker time! woohoow!
shoot the ball, sasha!
Posted by: erick | March 20, 2007 at 07:45 PM
Troy,
As a guy who's picked the Kandi Man as his LVP two straight seasons, I can't argue. haha
AK
Posted by: Andrew Kamenetzky | March 20, 2007 at 07:45 PM
pfunk-
My point was that LeBron was basically groomed for the NBA, with the media hype, and NBA style treatment, since about eighth grade. His adjustment to the NBA lifestyle wasn't the same as your average high school player making The Jump. Bynum barely played in high school, relatively speaking, and didn't have nearly the amount of hype around him. His experience entering the league was far different, and his experience in basketball that might have helped ready him for the NBA wasn't the same.
BK
Posted by: Brian Kamenetzky | March 20, 2007 at 08:26 PM
Thanks Ex. I actually came back today with a strong four buckets in three games. And my jumpers looked good enough out of the hand that I could have been an extra in a basketball movie, as long as they cut in footage of the ball going in.
Unfortunately, there's a lot more Mark Madsen in my game than I'd like, considering I'm only 5'9". Lots of running around, trying to grab rebounds, setting picks, and only dribbling in case of emergency.
BK
Posted by: Brian Kamenetzky | March 20, 2007 at 08:45 PM
BK,
Where were you when we needed you (when our roster was dessimated with injuries).
Posted by: Faith | March 20, 2007 at 09:00 PM
You guys dont know what you have in sasha. Soon you will all be praising him and saying how great he is. Tust me. As soon as he starts knocking them down you we will have little pussies on this board kissing his ass. Same patern with Kwame, Parker, and even Kobe sometimes.
People like you arent lakers fans, your pretenders, laker fans support their players all the time. You can criticize, but bithcing on how much they suck is just plain disgusting.
Posted by: Arsen | March 20, 2007 at 09:04 PM
BK,
The key word you used is "HYPE'".........LeBron was the most hyped player to come from highschool to the pros, he basically has had everything handed to him on a silver platter.........the jury is still out on this guy's mental fortitude and his ability to overcome distractions and obstacles in his game or his lilfe.
On the other hand Kobe the son of a pro was the best "PREPARED" for the leap from highschool to the NBA both physically and mentally! Remember Kobe has been playing with pros since he was 16 years old and his work ethic is unmatched. He was the first perimeter player to ever make the leap from HS to the NBA paving the road for a LeBron James........don't get it twisted.
Right now Bynum has hit a wall and he needs advice on how to mentally overcome it.........the only person that can do that is not Kareem.....he never DID it at that age...........it's not Phil Jackson............it's not Kurt Rambis.........it's not Brian Shaw.
The only person that had to overcome obstacles at that age AND OVERCAME them was Kobe. I hope Kobe and Bynum have a meeting of the minds for the sake of the Lakers..........We need to find out soon what Bynum is made of mentally.
Also I can't help but notice the hate for Kobe all over the league even among coaches across the country.........this time it is George Karl.......Remember this was the coach of the west in Kobe's first all-star game in New York that sat Kobe the entire fourth quarter so he wouldn't be the MVP, which he was on his way to accomplishing.......Karl says in this article that he watched Kobe score the 65 and it was unbelievable but it wasn't good for the league........what?
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/21/sports/basketball/21kobe.html?ref=sports
Will the hate ever end? Somebody please comment.
Posted by: pfunk36 | March 20, 2007 at 09:10 PM
(Repost #1/2 from 'Extra Extra 3.20') (Repost #2/2 to come once it is posted on 'Extra Extra 3.20')
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Let me make this perfectly clear:
I don't post as anyone else, and no one posts as me.
Got that? Good.
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In the CIA, they refer to it as 'groupthink.' Most people just refer to it as a 'lack of perspective.'
Just because some in here seem to favor Kobe above the franchise, don't confuse the rest of us as 'dumb,' 'the same person posting under different names,' or as 'lacking in baskteball IQ.'
Sorry we're not drinking the same Jim Jones Kool-Aid you are.
Three years without Shaq, who was chosen instead of Kobe (and who I think was run out of town by Kobe, who no longer wanted to be his 'sidekick'):
Miami: Year1: Takes Detroit to Game 7 of the Eastern Conference Finals against Detroit. Lost the series after Wade injures his ribs in Game 6 and Shaq continues to play with a messed -up big toe. Year 2: NBA Champion. Year 3: Poised to be one of the top-3 seeds in the Eastern Conference and make yet another deep run in the playoffs.
Lakers: Year 1: MISS THE PLAYOFFS. Year 2: Drop a 3-1 series lead to Phx, WITH KOBE QUITTING IN THE 7TH GAME en route to a nationally-televised, sad-day-to-be-a-Lakers-fan, humiliating defeat. Year 3: Poised for another round 1 dispatching, this time likely less painful but far faster.
Kobe got 'his' team. I've seen the results, as have many other Lakers fans. We're not impressed, to say the least.
My team is led by: 1) a multiple quitter; 2) a guy who signed a settlement agreement with, and paid big $$$ to, a woman who accused him of sexual assault (You don't sign away millions of dollars when you don't have a reason to do so. That's all that needs to be said); 3) a guy who threw his own teammate under the bus to the cops; and 4) a guy who is playing in his 11th NBA season and has his current, hall-of-fame bound coach (who also called him uncoachable in his last book) trying to send him messages through the media about playing the offense 'the right way.'
Sorry, I'm not thrilled by being 'led' by a guy like that, and neither are many other Lakers fans, who want their voices to be heard by Dr. Buss. We matter - we buy tickets and support the team. We buy team jerseys and apparel. We will not be bullied by Kobe sycophants on this or any other board. You're a Kobe fan? Good for you. I'm a LAKERS fan. A Magic fan. A Kareem fan. A Worthy fan. Etc. NO GUY IS BIGGER THAN THE JERSEY, CAPICE?
I don't see Kobe as part of the solution. I see him as part of the problem, and the last two seasons and this one have only solidified that belief in my mind. Kobe can care about Kobe, and I'll care about the team.
You want to know why Bynum is throwing fits? It's because he knows that management picked him over Kobe in this last trading deadline, and he can act like a punk if he wants. Make no mistake, this last tirade doesn't happen before the deadline. So everyone who thinks Bynum is going anywhere anytime soon, think again. And he knows it, which is why he can act like a baby and get away with it. The front office has spoken, and now Bynum's #1, no matter what you and I think about it. Bynum wanted to make sure Kobe knew that, and that's why he felt he could 'flex his muscles' against the T-Wolves the other day.
To whomever made the suggestion of Allen and Lewis for Kobe, I think we can get more, especially when you consider that Lewis is going to be a FA. Why not sign Lewis and package Kobe for Allen and 1-2 other guys, both. But I like how you're thinking, even though Allen's salary is too high versus Kobe's to justify the deal, talent-wise, in my mind.
As Judith mentioned, this team is mediocre right now. As I have said, that is the worst death, because it is very hard to get better when you don't get top picks. Someone was attempting to dog me in a thread last night by saying I 'wasn't willing to wait' for the team to improve. Nonsense. I'm the one lobbying for building for the future, around Bynum (I guess) than for now, around Kobe. I'm more than willing to wait. But I'm looking for improvement, and none's to be found. Unless you count making the playoffs as an improvement on Kobe's Lakers Year 1.
For a Lakers fan weaned on the 1980's, that's simply not going to get it done. We want, and expect, more.
Kobe was fine as a #2. As a #1, I want to hitch my wagon to a different horse(s). It's just not getting done these days in Tinseltown, and this Lakers fan isn't happy. Shaq's winning it all last year didn't help.
I like Judith's idea of getting a big and a small in return for Bryant. I'd love to get a young PG and an excellent 4 to go with Bynum. I'm going to have to look into this more, do some real research on teams and salaries.
For the Judiths, Toms and Bobs, etc., don't let the bullies get you down. Just keep voicing your thoughts here. We're all Lakers fans, even the Kobe apologists. Keep up the good work, all.
Posted by: fakerz | March 20, 2007 at 10:10 PM
pfunk-
All of what you say makes for an interesting debate topic... except it isn't what I was talking about. I was making a comparison between LeBron and Bynum in terms of how they came into the league. Nowhere did I say he should look to LBJ for a model on how to deal with the jump from HS to the pros (though LeBron has handled it very well, I think), just that the circumstances of their backgrounds in basketball and in media attention couldn't be more different. Drew wasn't aged by the process as rapidly as James, or even a Dwight Howard.
BK
Posted by: Brian Kamenetzky | March 20, 2007 at 10:16 PM
Fakerz, speak for youself. Most Laker fans don't appreciate what Kobe's doing and want him out? Get out of town.
Posted by: Ben Goldberg | March 20, 2007 at 10:21 PM
phil jackson sure spends a lot of time at the dentist. last week he missed a practice b/c of a dentist visit. hmmmmm
i'm not trying to start something but... i think phil is using that old dentist appt. excuse to kick it with jeannie in the afternoon.
if he pulls that same stunt next week, i say look for him at wolfgang puck's with jeannie
Posted by: CBuck | March 20, 2007 at 10:27 PM
(Repost #2/2 from the 'Extra Extra 3.20' thread - Thanks K Bros.! : ))
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Ok, here's a trade deal that would work. Now, I have to say I don't like it because none of these guys is a star, let alone a superstar like Kobe, but money-wise and position-wise, it would work:
Kobe: 30.0/5.7/5.5 --- (41.2)
2007/8 salary due: apprx. 19.5 MM
for
Kurt Hinrich, PG: 16.1/3.5/6.0 --- (25.6)
2007/8 salary due: 11.0 MM
Tyrus Thomas, F: 4.6/3.3/0.5 --- (8.4)
2007/8 salary due: apprx. 3.5 MM
Luol Deng, G/F: 18.8/6.9/2.4 --- (28.1)
2007/8 salary due: apprx. 3.3 MM
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Totals: 19.5 MM vs. 17.8 MM (41.2) vs (62.1)
Chicago would likely have to throw in another player to make the numbers work. But look at that. You're talking a (+20) in ppg/rpg/apg numbers, three players who have 3 years or less in the NBA, and two legitimate forwards to go with Bynum. Thomas is an athletic freak, and Hinrich is an excellent - though not stellar - PG who can run a team. There are questions about Thomas' attitude, so that would have to be looked into.
I would like to get more 'star power' in a deal, for sure. But in terms of talent, youth, and productivity, I would be more than satisfied to make this deal. The starting unit would look like this: Hinrich, Deng, Odom, Thomas, Bynum/Brown. Deng can switch positions, and that would give Farmar some time at the 2. I love the versatility of this lineup, particularly if we keep Walton.
This is a balanced unit, much better than the '1-4' thing we're doing now. Of course, it would take time for the new guys to learn the triangle. Kobe gets to go to another major market - Jordan's old market - and do his MJ thing. And the Lakers are set for years at 4 positions!
This is the kind of deal I'm looking at. A realistic deal that can help the Lakers get back to what they were and stay there for a long time to come. Once Buss and Kup chose Bynum over Kidd (and thus, Kobe) this year, I knew it was time to start looking towards the future.
The future would look damn good for the Lakers with these three guys in uniform for them. Youth, talent, balance.
Peace.
Posted by: fakerz | March 20, 2007 at 10:05 PM
Posted by: fakerz | March 20, 2007 at 10:34 PM
A response to Fakerz,
I must respectfully disagree with you. Plain and simple, i think you are wrong, but you are entitled to your opinion. Nevertheless, i believe you will be proven wrong this year, as will the majority of the blogger's here in lakerville. If, and that's a big if, we remain healthy the remainder of the way towards the playoffs. I think we could have first round upset on our hands, and possibly something greater. I believe in this entire basketball team, and that includes 1-15 on the roster. Everyone has a role and everyone contributes in some shape or form, and when we work as unit we are very difficult to beat in one game, let alone a seven game series.
In regards to rebuilding, this draft class may be the most deep pool of talent we have seen since 96'. And I"m thinking we have a shot at really improving our team this year through the draft, and the M.L.E. You may disagree with me, but thats okay, this is just entertainment anyways.
Posted by: adam kiley | March 20, 2007 at 10:40 PM
Arsen,
plain & simple: you're wrong.
honestly you should: shutup.
Cuz if you are going to defend Sasha Vujacic as a "player" after watching the debacle who is Sasha for 3 YEARS then you are crazy.
So either you dont watch games or your delusional.
I'll take both.
When Sasha Vujacic can ummm shoot a good % for a season, then let's talk.
Until then, you should be officially on the "ignored bloggers list"... real talk!!!
Posted by: Korey | March 20, 2007 at 10:42 PM
FAKERZ I HOPE YOU READ THIS ... (dont bother responding though):
KOBE FOR HINRINCH, THOMAS, & DENG....
hahhahahahahahahahahah....
lmao 100000x
thatz the funniest thing since Cheney "accidently" shot someone at the shooting range...
Trade a top-10 player of all-time for a collection of tier 2 players....righhtt...
Um dumby, dont you know that every championship team has a clutch player. A PLAYER THAT TAKES OVER at the end of games, can get to the foul line at will...
OF course you dont... And the name says it all "Fakerz" ... If you really liked the Lakers why would you intentionally disrespect the team you love so much?
IT'S BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT A FAN!!! ... lol ... lmao..
you are doing a really really good job of getting people riled up on your ridiculous posts...
Undoubtedly, you are Steven, Zakee, Sonny Belfast, , in disguise...
Then once people stop responding to "Fakerz", you will create a new name and continue to stupidity...lol
Oh how about this... how about we trade Kobe for Stackhouse, Josh Howard, and Dampier.... or Marion, Barbosa, & Stoudemire ..... or how about Arenas, Butler, and Haywood???
lol.... your foolishness is unparalleled on the blog so far...
hahahahahhahaha
trade kobe... the same guy who singlehandly took us out a losing streak by putting on NBA record-setting performances...hahhahahahahahahah
stupid... i cant stop laughing
Posted by: Korey | March 20, 2007 at 10:51 PM
Korey -
In his defense, having those three players instead of third stringers starting for the lakers wouldn't have allowed such a streak to happen in the first place.
Always another viewpoint.
Regards
Posted by: Evan | March 20, 2007 at 11:14 PM
WOW. Fakers must be the biggest Laker fan, but definitely not from this city. He may not even be from this planet. While I'll agree that Shaq is one of those players that should have never been traded even once in is lifetime, not even to us the Lakers that is, Kobe is also in that same category.
Jerry West is the most brilliant man alive because he recognized his talent before anyone and got him here on a trade the day Kobe was drafted, and I wish West was still here putting our team together rather than Kupchak.
Yet, having gotten that out of the way, I don't understand why this Faker is trying to FORCE so much disrepect and shame against Kobe when he has done nothing to deserve it. This is the guy who together with Shaq led the Lakers to a 3-peat, and 4 finals out of 5 years. And the guy who will take us there again many times i believe.
These Fakers must fans of the Bulls or Bucks or some terrible team trying to get the BEST PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE to a team of their own.
With the exception of these 5: Nash, Dirk, Shaq, KG, and Duncan, every other player in the league right now is just a JOKE when they're put next to Kobe Bryant.
Posted by: steve o | March 20, 2007 at 11:27 PM
i would just add that i spoke with a professional trainer ... and he said that with all the ankle injuries on the Laker's 'definitely' some of the blame falls at the feet of the trainer for not properly emphasizing exercises / conditioning to strengthen the ankles and thereby avoid injury ...
he seemed to think that proper training can go a long way to avoiding ankle injuries or at the very least moderating their severity when they strike...
Posted by: p0s1t1v3 | March 20, 2007 at 11:37 PM
Fakerz,
You should change your handle to FAKER! Cuz that's all you are - FRIGGING FAKER!
You care a rat's arse about the Lakers, but are so blinded by your hate towards Kobe that you have abandoned rational thought.
Basically, you are so full of shit your eyes are brown..
"Just because some in here seem to favor Kobe above the franchise, don't confuse the rest of us as 'dumb,' 'the same person posting under different names,' or as 'lacking in baskteball IQ.'
Who here is putting Kobe over the franchise? *NAME ONE PERSON*. You are not dumb, you chose to be dumb, and that's far worse.
"Three years without Shaq, who was chosen instead of Kobe (and who I think was run out of town by Kobe, who no longer wanted to be his 'sidekick'):"
Don't give me your frigging "I think" explanations. Support them with facts. Here's a fact for you to try to digest. The owner, coach and GM all have gone public to state that Shaq forced their hand. No one threw Shaq out Shaq wanted out because he did not want to share the limelight with Kobe. He wanted to be top dog, and so did Kobe. Management didn't side with one over the other. But when Shaq starts WHINING about getting paid 30 MILLION bucks at the BEGINNING of the season, what do you think management should have done? Paid him 30 M bucks? And what did he do afterwards? Sign with Miami for 20 MILLION less. Try to digest that before you puke out more crap.
"Miami: Year1: Takes Detroit to Game 7 of the Eastern Conference Finals against Detroit. Lost the series after Wade injures his ribs in Game 6 and Shaq continues to play with a messed -up big toe. Year 2: NBA Champion. Year 3: Poised to be one of the top-3 seeds in the Eastern Conference and make yet another deep run in the playoffs."
Now tell us honestly what you think Shaq's contributions were to each of the three years. How many games has he missed each year? Now, how responsible was Wade for all of that? And ask the Mavs how they feel about the championship they "lost". Don't believe me? Search for phatom call on You Tube.
"My team is led by: 1) a multiple quitter; 2) a guy who signed a settlement agreement with, and paid big $$$ to, a woman who accused him of sexual assault (You don't sign away millions of dollars when you don't have a reason to do so. That's all that needs to be said); 3) a guy who threw his own teammate under the bus to the cops; and 4) a guy who is playing in his 11th NBA season and has his current, hall-of-fame bound coach (who also called him uncoachable in his last book) trying to send him messages through the media about playing the offense 'the right way.' "
Now this is where you begin to insult everyone's intelligence. So you think Kobe quit in Game 7? What was your opinion of games 1 through 6? Can't spit out the truth? You forget Game 4? If you can't speak the truth, shut your mouth.
And as for the Colorado incident, who the #$#$ are you to sit here and judge on what he did or did not do? What happened outside the court is none of your business? So keep your despicable opinion to yourself. There is enough documented stuff about the "discrepancies" in that woman's claim. So, once again - SHUT YOUR MOUTH.
"Throwing teammates under the bus". If you want to bring that up, why don't you try to dissect what Shaq meant when he called the city of LA fake? See, that's why you are a true HATER. It's not about how Kobe is doing on the court - it's what he does off it. And the fact that other folks have done far, far worse is nothing to consider, right? WRONG.
On Phil. Now you hinting at Phil sending signals through the media. Back it up you dipstick. I'll send you TWENTY quotes about how Phil said the EXACT opposite THIS YEAR ALONE. And when you bring up the book, don't forget the epilogue. It's idiots like you that manufacture shit out of pure air, and then you wonder why things stink..
"I'm a LAKERS fan. A Magic fan. A Kareem fan. A Worthy fan. Etc. NO GUY IS BIGGER THAN THE JERSEY, CAPICE"
I'm calling you out right now - you are nothing but a rat. You admit to being "bullied" when the truth is that most people on this board took that lump of shit you periodically churn out and threw it in your face. You don't care about the Lakers as much as Kobe not being on the Lakers. You talk about the glorious 80s. What about the 90s you moron? Did you conveniently forget those TEN YEARS?
"Kobe can care about Kobe, and I'll care about the team."
Fact is that Kobe cares more about his team than an idiot like you. Don't believe me? Why don't you READ what PHIL, MITCH, TEX, LAMAR and the others who actually know the man say?
"It's because he knows that management picked him over Kobe in this last trading deadline, and he can act like a punk if he wants"
HA HA HA. Now read that alound 5 times to yourself and see how you come across. Are you saying that because management refused to trade Bynum, they think he is more valuable than Kobe? Pray, to whom was Bynum to be traded? To the Wolves? Have any FACTS to prove your fantasy? And btw, since you value management's opinion so much, why don't you also toe the company line on Kobe? SELECTIVE REASONING?
"But I'm looking for improvement, and none's to be found. Unless you count making the playoffs as an improvement on Kobe's Lakers Year 1"
What part of the following statements do you find hard to comprehend?
1. Year 1. Coach botling in the middle, Kobe and Lamar being out for substantial periods of time. So you think, inspite of that Kobe should have led the team from the baseline into the playoffs?
2. Year 2: In Phil's first year, the team comes one rebound away from upsetting the Suns in a series no one predicted
3. Year 3: In spite of missing LO, Kwame, Luke and Mihm (a lot of times at the same time), the team is still in 6th place in the WEST.
Perhaps you are confusing the team's improvement, with your own intelligence?
"As a #1, I want to hitch my wagon to a different horse(s). "
Why don't you and your horse go down to the barn together and have some "FUN"?
Now, let's see what drivel you come up with - I'm waiting to chew you out...
Posted by: hariyahu | March 21, 2007 at 12:04 AM
I could care less about what Karl said.
Here's something I saw from AI:
โHe had to have big games to get them off their snide,โ Iverson said. โAnd just what a leader is supposed to do. I hope I donโt have to score like that for us to win.โ
And here's another on the "witchhunt":
โIโve done the same exact thing on shots before,โ Iverson said. โIโve taken shots and was just concentrating on making the basket and not caring where my arm went and hit people before. I guess his was just so hard, they probably didnโt have a choice to do something about it.โ
When a player like AI has this to say about Kobe, who cares two sh!ts about crap like Fakerz
Posted by: hariyahu | March 21, 2007 at 12:07 AM
This is the third time I've read that Phil has to leave early for the Dentist. Is he eating too much candy or what???
Posted by: ajax | March 21, 2007 at 12:47 AM
everybody should check out this years potential draft class
http://www.nbadraft.net
http://www.hoopshype.com/draft
Posted by: adam kiley | March 21, 2007 at 12:52 AM
Fakerz,
You are so funny. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Hilarious stuff man! You ought to take that act on the road. Hahahahahaha! Keep those jokes coming man. I'm loving it.
Posted by: Fan of the Mamba | March 21, 2007 at 12:56 AM
korey, how can you say sasha is one of the 3 worst players in the nba. gimme a break. you hater. lol. seriously, i know you are frusturated, but dang, stop exaggerating. You have to at least give a guy his props when he does well(no matter how far and in between). The guy plays good defense(although spotty, but much better than smush's), and is a 90% free throw shooter. he can't drive at all, but is clutch. so his bad definetly outweigh the good, but you just a hater.
worse players than sasha whole last names JUST WITH AN A (too many others to write down)
Hassan Adams, maurice Ager, Luis Admunson, martynas Andriuskevicius, Rafael Araujo, Hilton Armstrong, James Augistine, and kelenna Azubuike.
so before you start saying random crap you dont know anything about, check some sources, then you can be taken off the "ignor blogger" list.
Posted by: greek dude | March 21, 2007 at 01:17 AM
pfucnk...its obvious what BK was sayng...and Kobe was not held up as a model of maturity when he came into the league...he had trouble adjusing in many other respects...Lebron was not only a better player he also had the maturity to handle himself.Now I Like kobe and dislike Lebron but that much is obvious.
Posted by: Kiwi | March 21, 2007 at 02:59 AM
fakerz...
'you dont pay millions of dollars unless you have a reason'...Kobe Bryant inhabits a different world to most people.Having the thing over and done and not being dragged through a civil court case was worth it to him.It was probably agreed upon before the criminal case was dismissed anyway.
I think you are looking a little too hard at this bynum incident...the guy is frustrated.To some degree its an accolade that he wasnt traded for Kidd but not as much as some people would have you believe....it doesnt mean they wouldnt trade him for a different player.Just becasue the lakers didnt get a deal they like enough doesnt mean anyone should think Bynum is the man.Your little story was straight from your imagination with nothing to back it up.
The quitting thing has been raked over theres a bit more to that story too.The lakers were a young low seed who took a much better and vastly more experienced team to the wire.They lost but you cant say they didnt put up a valient effort under the circumstances...How has Shaq Wade and their team which has mortaged their future completely for the present got anything to do with it?
Phil Jackson called him uncoachable and then came back to COACH THE TEAM....I think that kind of reduces his credibility dont you?
Kobe was wrong to mention Shaqs name in that interview but he had no idea it was being recorded or the world would hear it.He made a mistake under stressful circumstances...he wouldnt be the first.I agree it was inexcusable but if you want to trade him for a mistake he made in such circumstances nearly 4 years ago go right ahead becasue there is little to no truth behind all the other commonly held reasons to dislike the guy.
In short you dont know what you are talking about and you posess neither the ability to sort through the issues properly nor the facts to jump to such outrageous conclusions.You are perfectly entitled to your opinion but you might want to rethink the way you have reached it.
Posted by: Kiwi | March 21, 2007 at 03:29 AM
Look guys I am not a big blogger, however I read this blog on a daily basis. I don't say much, and I take everything you all say into consideration.
Fakerz:
YOU ARE AN IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PLease, NBA Gods put the Lakers in the Eastern conference for a season and see where Kobe Takes them. You analyze Shaq leaving with all that bull crap about where he has taken his team. Everybody in the free world witnessed D-Wade single-handedly resurrect the Heat in game 4 of the Finals last year and the Refs and Dallas collapse against his new found "greatness". I Don't know what you were watching and from your posts not interested.
Please stop posting so I don't have to read Idiotic posts from people who do not know what the hell they are talking about
J Buss made a simple business decision. He offered Shaq enough money to make him the highest paid player in the NBA and the man wanted more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What kind of businessman would pay an employee more who was overweight, lacked loyalty to his organization, and used company time to heal a wound he should have taken care of in the offseason.
Fakerz please shut up. Watch as Kobe takes us to the promised land. And when he does you better not act like you were a fan all along. If you do, you are exactly as your name says, a MF'ing Faker
Posted by: biglakerfan3408 | March 21, 2007 at 04:12 AM
Korey, Faith, et al.
Do you guys notice that the serious fan doesn't even entertain the foolish trade Kobe threads that are posted on the blog. AK, BK, Laker Tom, Mike T., Craig W., Roland Lazenby, Eric Pincus, et al don't even respond at all to the Fakerz type posts. Why because there's no need.
Let them have their say, let'em say it as often as they want. It won't change reality. Kobe Bryant is the face of the Lakers and the Lakers would be nuts to trade him. Jerry Buss said it all Kobe Bryant will retire as a Laker. So who's voice matters, Fakerz? Judith,? Bob? or Jerry Buss's. The 18,997 that attend every home game to support the Lakers say it all. The fans who've made both the organization and Bryant #1 in sales say it all. They've got the Lakers and Kobe's back.
So let'em talk, let'em tell gigantic lies like most fans want Kobe traded or trade Kobe for this group of players or that group of players or this one and that one, it's ridiculous but they need a forum for their viewpoint because Laker management won't listen. Presented with their trade Kobe diatribes, most Lakers fans will tell them to get outta here with that, and rightfully so.
I hope you guys (Korey, Tim, Craig, Faith, Edwin, JJ) continue posting your great insights into the game. I know we will hear comments from LakerTom, Mike T., and the rest when there's something to say as we continue our run to the playoffs.
Go Lakers, Seize the Day!
Posted by: Fan of the Mamba | March 21, 2007 at 06:05 AM
maybe we can trade up to draft the Chinese kid Yi?
Posted by: du ma | March 21, 2007 at 06:28 AM
Fakerz,
"2) a guy who signed a settlement agreement with, and paid big $$$ to, a woman who accused him of sexual assault (You don't sign away millions of dollars when you don't have a reason to do so. That's all that needs to be said); "
Wrong. That happens all the time in today's world. It is often MUCH cheaper, both monetarily and in terms of negative publicity, to settle out of court, even though the accused is innocent.
Posted by: exhelodrvr | March 21, 2007 at 06:59 AM
that article on kobe was one of the worst articles i've ever read.. (arent all kobe bashing articles pretty poor??) a bunch of quotes from the nuggets, and karl saying that 65 wasnt good for the game.. yea great article.. how do ppl get their jobs i swear..
as for fakers.. just ignore that guy, dont even give him a response... and im sorry evan, there is no discussion really..
Posted by: tp | March 21, 2007 at 08:39 AM
Fan of the Mamba,
I know I know. I usually ignore that stuff but I couldnt help myself. It was waaaay too funny.
greek dude,
arent you the guy that had some kind of personal interest in Sasha? Like he's your cousin or you know him through some wierd 6 degrees of separation ish.
Your senseless defense of Sasha is ridiculous. Am I a Sasha hater? YES. Why? Because he has proven to suck waaaaaayy more then he has been good. That's in layman's terms.
Want basketball sense?
OK, well you say he's clutch? If he was so clutch why couldnt he take advantage and step up when so many of our players were injured the whole season? Why can he shoot in practice but not in games if he is so "clutch"? Why is he shooting percentage always so low? Why man!!! This guy is clutch right? stop it...
OH, and he has defense? Wow. IF you like fouling at half court then putting your palms up in the air and crying as if that helps. Sasha is the worst guy you can have at the end of any quarter because he gives out free throws like it's water. His foot speed is just not there. I will give him this: HE TRIES HARD. But damn it, if you are slow afoot make up for it with team defensive skills.
And you already know his ballhandling and playmaking is shaky. How are you a PG but cant handle the ball? cant create for others?
So it wittles down to him being a 3pt specialist and that's it. But damn it, 8 times of 10 is shot is off. Problem is he not smart enough to only take rhythm threes. He jacks so many threes up that are bad shots that of course his FG% is low. Shouldnt he have learned by now?
So does that make enough sense for you greek dude? I am sorry to bash your "Sasha love" and your personal affection for him but that's how it is.
I'm sure he would KILL in any pickup game because he is a NBA player BUT when judged amongst his peers I dont know any worse PG.
Sorry....
Posted by: Korey | March 21, 2007 at 09:05 AM
"Trade Kobe" talk is completely fruitless anyway the Buss family will never trade Kobe, he will have one of his #'s hung from the rafters and thats that.
Right or wrong thats the way it is END OF DISCUSSION!
And in regards tot he article about Kobe I like that Iverson defended Kobe a little bit saying he throws his arms out after a shot all the time and no one is saying hes a dirty player.
George Karl is a loser and a wannabe, hes a Larry "get out of town" Brown
disciple so anything he says is suspect.
Posted by: BrandonC | March 21, 2007 at 09:10 AM
I was wondering that NBAdraft website..is that actually how it's going to turn out this coming summer? If that's the case..then it'll be interesting that's for sure..so this NBAdraft chart is OFFICIAL right? or is it a guess of how it'll turn out when it actually occurs?
Posted by: drew | March 21, 2007 at 09:34 AM
Fakerz,
What color is the sky in your world?
Your thinly-veiled disguise at not wanting people to quickly & easily call you out on bad ideas, "Just because some in here seem to favor Kobe above the franchise, don't confuse the rest of us as 'dumb,' 'the same person posting under different names,' or as 'lacking in baskteball IQ" (your words) are absolutely ridiculous. Trade the best player in the NBA for players comparable to everyone else?
Shaq was no team saint. He was causing problems of his own. He wanted more money than the team could afford. (If you've ever seen the footage of him running down the court during a game, looking to the sideline, and yelling "pay me more money", you'll know what I'm talking about.) He would have crippled the salary cap. Kobe makes $17 million this year. There are at least 8 players in the league, many with no rings & not nearly the stats, that make more.This allows the head office to make decisions they believe will build the team. (Vlade - so far bad; paying Luke to stay when he becomes a free agent - good.) Kobe has a say, I'm sure, but doesn't make those decisions. And he sure as h*** could get more money.
Also, no team wins championships without at least two all-stars. The Lakers, the Celtics, the Bulls, the Lakers (again,) the Spurs, the Pistons, the Heat, etc. all had them. The Lakers started off great this season because:
1. They were healthy.
2. They had two all-stars. (Lamar would have been in Vegas had he not suffered that knee injury.)
As Lamar continues his rise, Luke continues his, and Drew keeps getting better and better, the Lakers will become even more serious contenders.
Younger teams have more problems with less experience (the Lakers are a young team,) players take time to execute 'the triangle' (not just learn it,) and championship teams need a superstar to rally around. It is and always has been.
It's going to happen again in L.A. with Kobe. Luckily for you, people will have long forgotten your ridiculous ideas.
Posted by: Seadesire | March 21, 2007 at 09:45 AM
Even if you wanted to trade Kobe... you could never get a fair value for him. Therefore, talking about it is a bit frivoluous especially if you actually think it would improve the squad. There's really only one way it would remotely be possible... through draft rights that wind up landing yet another superstar, and that's a long shot. No one worth the type of money as a Dr Buss would actually be stupid enough to make such a poor business decision... unless FORCED such as was the case with Shaq.
I'm not a Sasha hater. I like all the players, even Smushy. I also love the franchise, and I'm more into the franchise winning than I am for any of the individual players. That said, Kobe IS the Lakers right now, and Sasha is a horrible player so far. I root for his success... but I look forward to someday upgrading the roster.
When was the last time a team won a title without a superstar? Really... you could argue Detroit maybe, but Billups, Hamilton, Wallace, Wallace, and Prince is not exactly a handful of scrubs. Normally you NEED multiple all-stars to have a chance...
Show me the all-stars that Kobe has failed to win with. Then I'll concede the point.
Posted by: Tim | March 21, 2007 at 09:51 AM
Fakerz,
What color is the sky in your world?
Your thinly-veiled disguise at not wanting people to quickly & easily call you out on bad ideas, "Just because some in here seem to favor Kobe above the franchise, don't confuse the rest of us as 'dumb,' 'the same person posting under different names,' or as 'lacking in baskteball IQ" (your words) are absolutely ridiculous. Trade the best player in the NBA for players comparable to everyone else?
Shaq was no team saint. He was causing problems of his own. He wanted more money than the team could afford. (If you've ever seen the footage of him running down the court during a game, looking to the sideline, and yelling "pay me more money", you'll know what I'm talking about.) He would have crippled the salary cap. Kobe makes $17 million this year. There are at least 8 players in the league, many with no rings & not nearly the stats, that make more.This allows the head office to make decisions they believe will build the team. (Vlade - so far bad; paying Luke to stay when he becomes a free agent - good.) Kobe has a say, I'm sure, but doesn't make those decisions. And he sure as h*** could get more money.
Also, no team wins championships without at least two all-stars. The Lakers, the Celtics, the Bulls, the Lakers (again,) the Spurs, the Pistons, the Heat, etc. all had them. The Lakers started off great this season because:
1. They were healthy.
2. They had two all-stars. (Lamar would have been in Vegas had he not suffered that knee injury.)
As Lamar continues his rise, Luke continues his, and Drew keeps getting better and better, the Lakers will become even more serious contenders.
Younger teams have more problems with less experience (the Lakers are a young team,) players take time to execute 'the triangle' (not just learn it,) and championship teams need a superstar to rally around. It is and always has been.
It's going to happen again in L.A. with Kobe. Luckily for you, people will have long forgotten your ridiculous ideas.
Posted by: Seadesire | March 21, 2007 at 09:56 AM
I'm disappointed that Mihm might not be back this season. I was hoping to see him get some time this year, but not at center. I wanted to see him play the 4. He's played power forward before, and I could see a lineup against San Antonio of Brown, Mihm, Lamar, Walton and Kobe. Since the triangle doesn't require a point guard, Lamar could run the facilitator role. On D, covering Tony Parker would be tough, it would have to be Kobe's job.
Posted by: Wagoneer | March 21, 2007 at 10:10 AM
Next Year:
What I think the Lakers need is a shorter (6'5" or under), quick footed, defensive specialist who doesn't need to score to keep his head in the game. I doubt that can be found in the draft. However, it is not a talked-about type of player. That means Mitch may be able to find them around the league - I know, there aren't too many of them playing at NBA level.
Think about next year. I believe the Lakers will sign Chris Mihm and Walton. That means we will have a pretty solid frontcourt. I am assuming Turiaf and Brown continue to improve and Andrew continues to lift weights. Mo is a 2nd team player, Rad will get better and be happier on the 2nd team than he would be this year, Farmar will continue to improve. Sasha is a spot player and, if he could just move his practice abilities to the game he would greatly increase his minutes.
I suspect the Lakers will sign Smush, if - and only if - he stops his pouting and shows continuous intensity in the game. He really is worth a reasonable NBA salary. Shamond should be pretty well versed in the triangle by next year and we should see a real battle between Smush and SW for the point guard spot. If neither shine then we will really need that defensive-minded pickup and use Kobe/Lamar/Walton as the people to bring up the ball and distribute.
This year:
I am praying there are no more injuries and we can get a rhythm going into the playoffs. I believe it is now time for us to stop 'baggin' on our guys and take all that analysis and focus it on where each player can best be used. Let's give Phil (and company) our take on where our strengths and weaknesses should be focused in each upcoming opponent.
GO LAKERS!!
Posted by: Craig W. | March 21, 2007 at 10:33 AM