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Know Thy Enemy: Sacramento

Sacramento Kings: 44-38 (8th in the Western Conference)
Big Gains: Acquired John Salmons and Loren Woods, drafted Quincy Douby
Big Losses: Bonzi Wells is still a UFA, but ain't comin' back; Jamal Sampson, Sergei Monia.

Should you be interested in drawing up a services contract for an explosive guard with a questionable attitude, you'll need more than $38 million spread over five years. Or at least you will for this particular guard. That's the figure Bonzi Wells turned down from the Kings, and while that seems like more than enough to feed his family (and Latrell Sprewell's, for that matter), it apparently isn't good enough for the Bonzinator. Or wasn't at least. Now, Wells looks like he might have had a change of heart (an apathetic response to your free agency will do that), but the Kings have moved on. They're in the John Salmons business now. Seriously. So Sacto loses some scoring, and very likely loses more 'tude. Given the money he wanted initially, I don't blame Basketball Operations chief Geoff Petrie for passing. But still, it's a net drain in talent.

But hey, why dwell on the negative? Well, because for Laker fans, when it comes to Sacramento, that's more fun than a barrel of monkeys. (By the way, can anyone explain what's so fun about a barrel of monkeys? That just seems cruel.) But I digress...

There is good news in the land of politicians and pastures. Namely, a full season of Ron Artest. Sure, it's good news laced with the ever present possibility of bedlam, but good news nonetheless. And how much trouble can a guy get into in Sacramento? You know, aside from developing a meth habit. At the very least, Ron Ron should dominate the music scene. The Kings were a different — and better — team after the deal that sent Peja Stojakovic to Indiana, and even without Wells will return a solid nucleus that includes Mike Bibby, Brad Miller, Shareef Abdur Rahim, Kenny Thomas, and a rapidly improving Kevin Martin, who at this point could be the best K-Mart in the league.

The day after Christmas last year, the Kings looked like a sinking ship: 10-17, better than only Portland in the WC, and going nowhere. In mid-January, Sacramento picked up Artest, but by the first of February were still seven games under .500 (19-26). Well, they finished six games over, which means Sacramento played their final 37 games at 25-12. That ain't too shabby. So like the Lakers, the Kings can be encouraged by a strong finish.

How it will translate into '06-'07 success is largely in the hands of new coach Eric Musselman, replacing Rick Adelman, who was sacked after eight solid years, the equivalent to Queen Victoria's reign given the rate at which NBA coaches are typically turned over. Musselman, of course, is the young dude who very nearly drove the Warriors to respectability in two seasons at Golden State, and was the runner up to the '03 Coach of the Year award. That he couldn't get the turnaround completed isn't exactly a shock. Fighting the losing inertia that is Golden State is like trying to keep the Earth from rotating. Those are some serious forces at work. And of course, the Warriors canned him, which helps explain why they're still so bad. Musselman has a rep for emphasizing defense, an area in which the Kings can certainly improve. With Artest around, at least Musselman has one really good weapon at his disposal in the effort to defend the Sacto hoop.

Musselman also has a rep for being something of a tight-ass disciplinarian, which should work out great with Ron Ron as well. Forgive Kings fans if they walk around with umbrellas all winter. It would suck for that other shoe to hit you on the head after it drops, right?

The Verdict: All in all, a solid-if-unspectacular team. Just like in L.A., the strong finish is encouraging the cow bell faithful, but in reality, the Kings will be fortunate to make the playoffs. Talent should give them a very good shot at the top eight, but if they falter at all, Houston, New Orleans, and perhaps even Utah could leave Sacramento out in the cold. Best case scenario, they add three, maybe four wins to their total from last year, and sneak into the six spot (we're talking seriously aligned planets, here). More likely, the Kings will produce a record more like their '05-'06 campaign. Not enough to finish ahead of a healthy L.A. squad.

BK

 
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Only one this time instead of three? =(

Hey people its my first time commenting on the blog but I have been on this continously since last December. Best sports blog I have found on the net. Im in Sweden right now and this is my only link to the Laker world. No Vic the Brick out here lots of blondes though so Im not complainin.

As for the Queens... Bring it! I hope the Kings are just as good as the Lakers this season. Thats at always been my favorite rivalry over the past years and lately it has lost some of its fire. If the Lakers and Kings are battling for post season position down the stretch and the Lakers happen to knock them into a lower seed or out altogether that would be so F'ING AWESOME!!!
As for Bonzi Wells, he is a talented player. I think he underachieves at times. If he had resigned with the Kings he may have lost the drive that he displayed in the playoffs and just coasted or cruised happy to just be getting paid. Maybe on another team he will have more to prove.

To SonnyBeltfast: Why do you always come on this blog and hate on the Lakers and Kobe dude? Dont you have some cows to herd and some corn to grow homeboy... j/k. I think your neato. Entertaining at least.

Peace & Love

Completely off topic, I know. But please allow me this...

With all the hate, anamosity, jealousy, and violence associated with sports and the world in general, it was always pleasant to break from it all, if only for a moment, and enjoy the presence of someone like Steve Irwin, aka The Crocodile Hunter.

He was a man who embraced life and living for humans and animals. He was an educator, and as such he was an enricher of life. He was funny, and as such he instilled the soul with happiness. And he was a family man, a loving husband and a father.

As we enter the football/basketball season, with all of the Raiders controversy on the horizon, the Kobe hating, the criticizing of our local sports teams, whenever you need a break from all of the negativity and madness that so many of us have become use to, remember Steve, watch his show if you haven't ever, and realize that there are actually moments in this crazy life that pure of hate and trivility.

Blessings to you and your family, Steve.

Thanks BK, its good to be talking about the upcoming season rather than just speculating about endless trade scenarios that will never happen. I think the west will be a dog fight. Here's my take:

1st tier: San Antonio, Dallas, Phoenix
2nd tier: Lakers, Clippers, Nuggets, Kings
3rd tier: Rockets, Grizzlies*, Jazz, Hornets
4th tier: Sonics, Warriors, Blazers
(Grizz move up to 2nd tier when Gasol gets back)

I thought the queens had been relegated to the nbdl. On the real though, the weird thing is when I think of Ron Artest, I'm like wow, pair him with Kobe and we'd be a beast defensively ... ala Mike and Pippen. But with him in Sacto, I'm like "just you wait henry higgins, just you wait ... you'll be sorry when he starts chucking knives at the fans" ... what can I say, I got a hater in me too, only I dnt let it rage out of control and spend all my time on the queens blog talking about how artest has rabies ( ya hear that steven ).

Wish I could just fall into a coma for 2 months and wakeup on the 1st day of regular season. This is our time, the reign of Kobe is upon us.

In Kobe we Trust,
Go Lakers

What a damper of an assessment for Sonnybelfast's Sac Queens. There you are Sonnyboy. A realistic and non-rose colored glasses view of your team. They can have Bonzi back for all i care (sorry Laker Tom).

hmmm AK and BK i think lakertom had a point.
sacto alone?this will make sonny open so many debates and fights that he will get a 100 replies.
bling bling.the way u guys are putting it we might be a top 4 seed and win the division.when was that bad.i hope so.i doubt that tmac abd yao will stay healthy,and i dont think peja was more than an expenxive mistake.but thats me.btw other than bibby who i gonna do the scoring.(i read roumurs than bibby might wanna leave coz of problems with in the team).(is it evil to hope for nash to fall down and break his leg taken bell with him(bell just for the fun))

the queens at best will probably be in the 8th or 9th spot in the west..

the loss of bonzi wells in their backcourt is huge..
i dont know about kevin martin, but i see that he is a young player with talent..

i completely agree with you BK that these queens wont even come close to our lakers squad..


go kobe!


go lakers!

A brief rundown of all 30 teams, nothing new, but if you need to kill some time, it'll do.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/article_18599.shtml

"Kobe supposedly has pushed Smush hard this off-season, urging him to stay in the gym and work on his shooting"

My man Kobe continues to lead during the off-season, trying to keep the troops motivated even though there's no action in sight. I hear Smush is: bringing sexxy back, yup, dem other boyz don't know how to ball, yup

In Kobe we Trust,
Go Lakers

Good post BK. But, I would be prepared for Sonny to throw a few cowbells at you. I mean you're saying that the team from "God's Country" isn't as good as LA. lol

BK

More importantly than "knowing thy enemy" is for the Lakers to "know thyself".

Will Phil Jackson be able to make the adjustments to create a system that will get the best results from his talent especially the new talent (Radmanovic)? Will he be able to do this early in the season or will he talk about how long it takes to learn the triangle?

Will Phil Jackson emphasize defensive basketball principles against the pick and roll.....the same pick and roll that destroyed the U.S.A. National team? In the past Phil has been very lax in this area.......and by the way since the European teams played such great "team ball" which team if any ran the triangle?


Also the most popular N.B.A player in Asia didn't even suit up last week........Hint: He is known by one name.

http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/sports/200609/kt2006090517262511650.htm

BK,
I agree that the Queens have a hard time passing our beloved Lakers. The two wild cards for them will be how well the players respond to Musselman - he is more of a disciplinarian. More importantly is does Ron Ron remain a good team player or does he start to go T.O. on the Kings? They could be scary but I just doubt that they can pull it off, everything would have to break just right for the Kings to be a serious player in the playoffs. GO LAKERS!

Nice write-up, BK.

What's the story with Jamal Sampson? Is he healthy? I'd like to see him back in Purple and Gold again.

GO LAKERS!

It's too bad for Adelman he could never overcome the Lakers in his years in Sacramento. As much as I loathe the Kings, I have to admit that he did a very good job up there. Oh well, I hope they never win another game.

I hate Ron Artest and I think there is a strong possibility that he will go bonkers one night under the cacaphony of cow bells and attack some hapless nachos vendor, but... he is quite a gifted and inspiring player.

I'm thinking the Queens will take the seventh spot.

I hope Bonzi Wells gets sent to New York or Seattle. Never liked that bitchy, whiney players.

GO LAKERS!

BK,

Great meth habit reference, never a bad time for one of those.

As for the Kings, I have them about the same as Lakers so I have to agree with your comments. My guess, with everyone healthy on both squads, deciding which team will do better this season is a coin flip.

Good to hear Smush working out with Kobe, I'm rooting for him to come back from that disappointing ending to last season.

BK,
Great analysis. Losing Bonzi won't be the end of the world for Sac. Kevin Martin is nice and gets better every year. One thing Sac has done much better than the Lakers is draft good young talent. Martin, Salmons, Garcia, and Douby should be able to pick up some of the slack. However, like BK mentioned, to take any kind of a dip in talent when most of the West teams made improvements could be killer.
And although the Kings have some decent young talent, Bibby and Miller look like they are about to slow down and looked (especially) bad on defense last year. Lucky for them, Artest will keep them in the hunt. Without him, this team wouldve been really bad.
If all the teams remain completely healthy (esp those Rockets), I expect the Kings to get the 8th or 9th spot....and closer to the 9th.

My heart goes out to Steve Irwin. What a sad loss, but he really got under my skin when he brought his baby in the ring with him with the crocks. Not a good move to say the least. That was incredibly stupid!!! GO LAKERS!!

Pfunk,

I believe this is who'll be interviewing Kobe in Seoul. Thought you'd be interested.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=jXSL1-uaEzs

AK

Hate to put a damper on things, but "know thy enemy" has to mean a realistic assessment. And that means acknowledging that the Kings are probably a better team than the Lakers. Sure, Ron Ron could scuttle the whole thing, and yeah, they have a new coach and are losing Bonzi, but absent some unforeseen improvement, I've gotta think that Bibby-Martin-Artest-Abdur-Rahim-Miller is better than Smush-Kobe-Vlad-Lamar-Kwame.

the queens are the queens. how they call themselves the kings if they have never won a title? kings of what (that goes for the l.a. hockey team as well).

off subject, but when is team usa going to truly put out their best possible squad?

Jon:
Jamal Sampson signed with Denver.

RM,

That's a good point. That Queens will be tough this year. I do like the Lakers line-up better. I hope Kwame can stand up to Miller this year and muscle him around a little. That'll be the key to beating the Queens in my opinion.

RM,
I think the King's lineup sounds (somewhat) imposing only on paper cuz they have the "bigger name" players. But Bibby and Miller are slowing down...not good for already slow players. Bibby, Miller, and Shareef ...while very good offensive players...are creampuffs on D. Martin is a real nice player, quick, athletic, good overall player. But Kobe will destroy Martin, who seems like he's half the size of Kobe mass-wise. Really, its incredible how much Artest brings to this team, offensively and especially defensively. Remember, their defensive #s were atrocious before Artest came on board. Artest will keep them in the hunt, and Kenny Thomas is actually a key player for them....but as of now, the Lakers look like the better, more balanced team.

great writeup. it pains me the most to see artest on the kings. i really liked artest for his nitty gritty D, and physical play, and well, him being on the kings now brings down his likeability factor. granted the kings are nowhere near the 2002 kings team, but i still can't root for them or their cowbells.

RM...

they might have better talent on paper, but we'll see who's still got their same starting 5 come january.

on a sidenote, why does that hatred for sacto still remain? it's not like they're much of a threat for the lakers. why is it that i can't stand the kings or their fans? i don't have nearly the same hatred for the jazz who swept us out of consecutive playoffs appearances?

RM-

Trust me, I'll be getting to plenty of teams I think are better than the Lakers, and I'm sure AK has a batch as well. I think it's close, and it's not out of the question that the Kings could finish ahead of LA, but if you're asking me now who I think will have the better record- which is the basic point of this one- I'll say the Lakers.

As for just doing the Kings, we're going to be doing the rest of the teams one or two at a time, b/c they're far more relevant to the discussion than say, Portland and Golden State, who can be dismissed more quickly. We're now entering the group of teams that realistically will be part of the chase, so to speak.

Plus, there's still a long time before training camp opens.

BK

Rocky,

Actually, Kwame muscling Brad Miller around doesn't help much since Miller is one of the centers who spends most of the time on the perimeter. He's probably the best passing center in the league, and he has an above average outside shot. The problem this causes us is that drawing Kwame away from the basket takes away his biggest strength, one-on-one post defense. I think we saw Phoenix exploit this to it's maximum in the playoffs last year.

wiZo,

I read recently that Bibby has spent the off-season getting in shape and losing weight. He mentioned that he's the lightest and quickest he's been since college, so that throws the "slowing down" theory out the window.

I do believe the Lakers are better at this moment, but not by much, and really, if the Kings ended up better it wouldn't be a huge shock to me.

RM,

You stated:
"Hate to put a damper on things, but "know thy enemy" has to mean a realistic assessment. And that means acknowledging that the Kings are probably a better team than the Lakers. Sure, Ron Ron could scuttle the whole thing, and yeah, they have a new coach and are losing Bonzi, but absent some unforeseen improvement, I've gotta think that Bibby-Martin-Artest-Abdur-Rahim-Miller is better than Smush-Kobe-Vlad-Lamar-Kwame."

I beg to differ because that Sac team didn't improve anything. Matter of fact they took a step back by losing Bonzi. In a league where you must improve every year, the Kings didn't do that. Martin is not better than Bonzi' sorry, and the Lakers added more shooting(Vlad and Shammond). The Lakers are more versatile now w/ Vlad being able to play both forward spots like LO and being able to stretch the floor which is an obvious improvement. Just because they might look good on paper doesn't mean anything. The Rockets looked good on paper last year and they didn't make the playoffs. Luck and injuries are always a factor. So, I believe BK's assessment ofthe Kings is very accurate.

dref

Kobe's coming to Korea!!!!!!! sweet!!!!!!
great post BK

AZ,

My opinion about Kwame muscling up Miller being the key is based on last year's match-up's between the two. It seemed to me that when Kwame was getting pushed around underneath the basket, the Lakers lost. When Kwame held his ground against Miller, we won. Miller was intimidating Kwame in the first couple match-ups. But in that last game, Kwame held his own, didn't back down, showed some pride, and the Lakers killed the Queens in that game.

I'm not too worried about Miller stepping outside. The team defense along with Kwame can and will get a hand in Miller's face. I would also think that if an outside shot(20 ft & beyond) by the center is the best the Queens can come up with, let Miller fire away.

Kwame just can't let Miller get into his head and intimidate him. Miller can be a dirty player. And Kwame can be a weak-minded player. Whether Kwame can handle Miller is the biggest question in my mind when thinking about the Queens, the other players cancel each other out. Kwame showed he can do it. Can he be consistent with it?

Not that this has any relevance at all to this discussion, but I read a comment from a fan on another website that asked the question of where we would be if we hadn't released Brian Grant with that "Allen Houston Rule". Obviously Dr. Buss saved $15 million and more power to him for doing that, but you have to think that a $15 million expiring contract at the trade deadline this year would be a pretty valuable commodity to have, especially in a year where KG is basically at a make it or break it point with the Wolves, amongst other players who could help us.

I mean, you take the $15 million from Grant, and there is a possibility a package for KG could be made without including LO. I just think that it would have been nice to have that option.

But since it's obviously day dreaming, forget I ever said anything.

AK & BK how many wins do you guys have on the Laker season?

I could care less about those queens. I do think they will do well just like Bk said, but this laker team will kick their sorry a**es. I dont even understand letting Adelman go and signing musselman, those guys in the locker room wont give him the respect he will need to run the team. Signing Nelson to this team will make more of a sense. He's the best coach not coaching when he was out, but the warriorrs did the job by picking him up.

Go Kobe, boy is doing so much work this summer and hes doing a great job. Im saying it, Kobe will be 06-07 mvp, and this will be due to him doing what he does on the court, and his summer work. Im starting to forget Kobe past troubles, and that is a good thing cuz we can all start judging by what he does on the court.

Like Taliq says,

In Kobe we Trust,
Go Lakers

Troy,

Ditto on Steve Irwin. A kindred spirit, a real conservationist and family man.

Hey "Laker" fans,

I'm waiting in the wings. Humming a little toon.
Making a list
Checking it twice
Gonna find out who's naughty or nice

Of late, in deference to Laker Tom, I've exercised considerable restraint. Don't force me to unharness my "Testes".

For now, gotta get back to growing that corn and herding those cows. I'll enjoy reading your posts late this evening.

See you then.

Rocky,

Kwame and "consistent" have gone together like oil and water thus far in his career. I'm right there with you hoping that he gets it between the ears this year and helps us win a few more games.

Good point about Miller shooting 20 footers. I guess that wouldn't be all that bad.

For those who want to trade Chris Mihm, here's an opportunity from the Grizzlies.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/article_18603.shtml

Since an inevitable demand do exists, Lakers could ask for First Round Draft Pick plus cash. In my opinion, I would still cling to Chris Mihm, a 7 footer you're not sure he might break out this season.

With regards to Sacto, the only attractive players they've got are Bibby and Ron Ron. Brad Miller was a bad choice in Team USA, he was supposed to help in the last two games but he was being overpowered by nimble international players on the board, once in a while he gets the 3 but he was there to control the board, provide a nasty defense and all the post jobs not the perimeter work, he's too too slow for his height. This year without Bonzi in the line up, I doubt if Sacto could pass Rockets and NO/K.

AK why isnt the latimes covering kobe on his 81 asia tour,why only report the negative news on him?

Jon Kavulic,
You would like to see Sampson back? .....Why?

http://www.sactownroyalty.com/

Sonny,
I remember you saying that there's not much to be found for Queens blogs earlier in the year.

Just thought I'd post for your pleasure. A blog that was, in fact, referred on this here Laker Blog way early in the season. I've continually gone back because..well..the guy writes a pretty informed and quite entertaining blog. In case you didn't already know about it. They'll even keep you up to date on the new stadium and such. Topics that matter not to me.

Recently entertaining posts.

"Go away, Bonzi. Just go away."
and
"Sprewell didn't hate PJ Carlesimo. He had the hots for him."

Gina,

"AK why isnt the latimes covering kobe on his 81 asia tour,why only report the negative news on him?"


I have no idea, since BK and I aren't a part of such decisions. But it could be for many reasons. Perhaps they offered to follow Kobe around and he declined. Maybe they didn't have a writer to spare (it's not a huge staff on the sports department). It could be a budget thing (that's an expensive assignment, sending a writer overseas). Maybe it's too similar to the coverage T-Mac has gotten for traveling to Asia. Mike Bresnahan, their beat writer, recently wrote a long piece on Kobe that focused a fair amount on Kobe's reemergence in the marketplace, so they might have thought it was covered territory. Or they might just think it's not that interesting.

But truth be told, I'm just throwing darts. LIke I said, I really don't know.

AK

Edwin,

I'll take one more swing at the dead horse. I think trading Mihm would be a bad idea, even for a first round pick. This is all based on the fact that I do not think Andrew Bynum is ready to contribute 18-25 minutes of productive basketball at an NBA level yet, and that leaves Kwame Brown as our only five and that scares the crap out of me.

Some wonder if we don't trade him would we lose him for nothing at the end of the season and I don't agree with that statement. I think if we don't trade him we get one of the best back-up centers in the league for an entire season where we are trying to advance in the playoffs. A player like Chris Mihm is going to be extremely helpful.

If the ultimate goal of this franchise is to build on the success they had last year, trading away a big man who contributed quite a bit is not the way to go. I still see Bynum getting 5-10 minutes a game, mostly in garbage time or early on in competitive games, and Chris Mihm splitting time between the 4 and 5. If at the end of the season he wants to walk, that's fine. We get a year of service from a hard working guy in a contract year, and his salary off the books when his contract expires. It's a win-win if you ask me.

AK

I checked out the link for the video with the guy appearing with Kobe in Korea.....Thanks!.......I think?

AK,
This is completely off the subject, but it bothers me. Do you or anyone know who's responsible for choosing the photos for NBA's PHOTO of the YEAR contest or how they're chosen?? Kobe's contest photo does not in any way represent the sick moves he's made on the court this past season....and I know they were all photographed. Seems like he's being set up to lose against D-Wade, Lebron and others. I'm sure other players may be in the same boat, but it's an injustice to all not to enter the best photos available. (especially Kobe's photos)

AK, is winning 52 games realistic?

AZ,

I agree with you.

During the Labor Day Weekend, there was another round of Mihm trade with Darius Miles. No way with Miles, but if there is any to unload him is at this time when Grizzlies needs badly a substitute for the injured Pau Gasol. As i said in my post, I would hold on to Mihm as an insurance to Andrew and Kwame who are both 50-50. Secondly, I like Mihm as the second defender in the post to block shots that escapes from defense of Vlad and LO. With that kind of hidden defender strategy, he avoids committing fouls on one-on-one defense. I'll think he will contribute 12/10 this year as a substitute.

Rocky,

Here's the news about Darius Miles from the Oregonian that he has bad knees. Hmmn, another Brian Grant's knees, he's too young to have bad knees.

http://www.oregonlive.com/canzano/index.ssf?/mtlogs/olive_JohnCanzano/archives/2006_09.html

HoustonLaker,
I agree about the photo. They should have the one where Kobe dunked over Nash in the playoffs. I know there were many other worthy pics, but that one was my favorite just because I think Nash is a fairy and Kobe can basically ball on him at will. Can you imagine Kobe's stats if he was running D'Antoni's offense? If Kobe and Nash swapped teams then Phx would have won the championship last year and the Lakers would have gotten a better draft pick.

S. Tan,
I checked out the Sacto blog. The articles are articulate and I like them; I think I saw 4 comments on one topic, haha. I know that they have lots of fans up there. Perhaps we won the lottery and picked up the only literate one.

BK:

Nice review of the Kings. I agree with you on everything. Let me make sure about this. If you believe the best case scenario for the Kings is to slip into the six spot and you believe they will not finish ahead of the Lakers, does that mean that your best case for the Lakers is at least the number five slot? It is hard evaluating your evaluation of other teams relative to the Lakers when we don’t have your evaluation of the Lakers – at least, your “formal” evaluation. I am predicting that the Lakers will end up a the number three seed. What is your prediction? Thanks.

Tom

UCLA.KERS:

Nice handle. Welcome to the arena. How about that Ben Howland. More Kevin Love. Now we need Singlar.

Tom

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Lysander:

Shhh! Let sleeping queens lie. Shhh!

Tom

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Xodus:

I’m afraid it won’t be cow”bells” that sonny throws.

Tom

Gina/AK

Gina, that was an excellent question, it was one I pondered as well.

"AK why isnt the latimes covering kobe on his 81 asia tour,why only report the negative news on him?"

I just read AK's "speculation" as to why "they" the LAtimes are not covering the 81 asia tour.....he likened it to "just throwing darts".

Well let me throw some darts as well.....if you don't mind Gina?

Perhaps they NEVER offered to follow Kobe around and he never had a chance to accept or decline. Maybe they do have a spare writer ( What else is the LAKER BEATWRITER doing these days?) Maybe somebody would be smart enough to realize T-Mac is based in Houston and LA fans really could care less about his Asian Tour.......I don't know......that just makes since to me......what do you think Gina?

If Mike Bresnahan recently wrote a long piece on Kobe that focused a fair amount on Kobe's reemergence in the marketplace.....I haven't seen it......would you please post that link!!

Based on the all-star voting tabulation last year Kobe is the biggest international NBA star in the league......which is always news because that makes Kobe the number one guy with taking our sport and making it global and more diverse......which should always be interesting.

Maybe the Editors of the LAtimes are out of touch with the people of LA if they think this story isn't interesting, because it certainly is making news in Asia.

It's funny Gina, but they even seem to be more fair in reporting the news without personal slants, but what do I know.......I'm just throwing darts as well.

http://www.zeenews.com/znnew/articles.asp?rep=2&aid=320344&ssid=93&sid=SPO


Edwin,

I agree that Memphis is primed to need a big man, and Mihm would fit perfect with them right now, but like we both said, he's pretty damn valuable to us right now based on Kwame and Bynum.

As for Darius Miles, that dude (and his god-awful contract and bad knees) should be avoided like the plague.

Andrew Z,
Trading Mihm for a first round pick could be a smart move depending on the projected finish of the team you are trading with and the projected strength of the draft next year.

Factor in the entirely new system vs. the Princeton offense (which is a great offense IMO, better than the Triangle), I think this is a fair, if a bit optimistic assessment of where the Kings will end up. For now, the whole operation is a little bit off....the players, coach, management, ownership, are quite aligned since there have been so many changes, kinda like the Lakers year before last. They have the talent to be interesting. Realize, they're throwing out a system that has been in place for 8 years. In essense, the Kings are rebuilding.

By the time they get their act together, it'll be too late. Houston and Charlotte look better at thsi point for the last spots in the West. I would love for them to be as good as they were when they lost to the Lakers in the WCFs. They had a great offense and decent defense. That isn't going to happen this year.

And now BK's brother (from the same mother) chimes in:

I see Bonzi’s absence as a plus and a minus. It's a minus because the dude can play. He was the squad’s best player behind Ron Artest and Mike Bibby, a pretty good rebounder for his size and can do damage to his opponents. However, it's also a plus because he often damages his own team. If you're like me (and the Maloof Brothers/Geoff Petrie seem to be), you're not particularly convinced by his "character reformation/blowing up in the playoffs during a contract year" status and envision a long term, expensive contract (like the one he's seeking) immediately reverting him back to "pain in the ass" Bonzi. Similar to how I'd never give Tim Thomas multiple years of guaranteed cheddar, I'd never offer it to Wells, either. They'll miss Wells, but not enough to chance his track record not missing a beat. They already have one theoretical ticking time bomb in Artest. They don't need another.

And speaking of Ron Ron, he’s more difficult to predict than Mel Gibson after "2 for 1 Drink Night" at a synagogue (why a temple would let Gibson hang out- or serve cocktails at such a furious rate- is indeed peculiar, but roll with me). He’s also the Kings’ best player. By a long shot. When his head is even remotely screwed on, Artest is arguably the NBA’s best two-way player. I’d bet the farm on him going goony bird again before his Sacto tenure ends, but the Kings remain optimistic (if for no other reason than they have to).

After the 2002 WCF, I begrudgingly admitted that Mike Bibby’s got huevos for days. The guy is also as skilled as he is fearless, and can stick a dagger in any team. Brad Miller is among the game’s best passing bigs and combines with Shareef Abdur-Rahim to make up a fluid front court scoring tandem (if a none-too-intimidating defensive presence, but Kenny Thomas helps). If Laker fans are lucky, Sasha Vujacic will become half the “skinny as hell player” as Kevin Martin (in ability, of course, not weight. That would be Nicole Richie thin.). Quincy Douby (another svelte cat) provides scoring in bunches. And Francisco Garcia (Seriously, send some sandwiches to the state capital ASAP!) can hit it from outside. Assuming John Salmons is the player they're hoping for, this combines for a team not to be trifled with.

But assuming the Lakers (and others) enforce a “No-Trifle” policy, Sacto's success has a ceiling. While one must give credence to the presence of new coach Eric Musselman (who damn near made Golden State a goodish team), they still don’t strike me as much more than unquestionably solid. Yeah, some would make the same argument about the Lakers, but when in doubt, tie goes the team with the best player (one Kobe Bryant). Save Artest and Bibby, the Kings don’t have anybody who can take a game over (or seems to have the desire). And if things don’t start well for whatever reason, Artest will likely get restless, which ain’t good. I picture them getting better by a few games (as will many of the teams at their heels in '06) and likely a part of the playoff picture. But I also suspect the Lakers will improve by at least a few games, so I don’t see them getting lapped, even if the race itself is more than a little sweat-inducing.

Final Verdict: Worse than the Lakers, but to paraphrase that mirror on your car, objects may appear closer than you’d prefer.

AK

Pfunk,

Actually, the Lakers beat writer (Mike Bresnahan) has been on vacation, so sending him wouldn't have been a possibility.

AK

If you were a GM, take your picks:

1) Ron Artest, a solid top 25 performer or
Kobe Bryant, no description needed.

2) Mike Bibby, a solid guard or Lamar Odom, a man that provides matchup problems all around.

3) Brad Miller, a pretty good player but getting older or Vlad, who is pretty good as well. This one is a toss up dependent upon what the team needs.

4) Kevin Martin, a new good talent vs Kwame Brown, who has been improving at center. I personally have started to like Kwame.. but I understand if you pick the other way.

5) Whoever or Smush. You'd probably take the whoever. It's okay. Smush will get better and he's decent even though almost everyone on this blog hates him.


Anyways, some of my reasoning sucks. But look. If you give me the WHOLE kings team against Kobe I'd take Kobe. I'm pretty sure most GMs would too. Kobe is on another level. Even trading away most of the Kings for Lamar would make me hesitate....

Bottom line... Lakers have a better team and should outperform the Kings.

David Whang,
At this point, those starting line-ups are a toss-up. On the court, Ron Artest is as good an all-around player as Kobe. But you don't know when he will implode.

The big questions are Kwame and Smush's improvement, and Ron Artest's stability.

The LA Times is out to get Kobe by not following him on his Asian trip. And the NBA is out to get him by not putting his best pictures in the photo-of-the-year contest. Mitch got rid of Shaq just so Kobe wouldn't win any more titles! Everybody is out to get Kobe!! Even Kobe is out to get him. Why else would he miss that shot at the end of game 6 in the playoffs?

I don't know if this has been posted yet or not but I thought we might all take a look back at the 2005-2006 season with a highlight reel!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vBD32bk4cQ

Enjoy!

exhelodrvr,

I see where you're coming from in regards to trading Mihm for first rounder, but I think the Grizzlies (stupid name by the way now that they're located in Memphis, but I digress) will be strong enough to have it be a mid to late first rounder, and my guess is they would avoid giving a pick in the 2007 draft, which some say is the strongest in quite some time.

I do think however that by the All-Star break or trade deadline that Mihm's value will more than likely go up, either for us or another team, based on the playoff standings.

exhelodrvr,

I completely agree with you in terms of your big questions and also admit that all-around Artest is a great player. He is probably the one player that brings fear to the other team in terms of defensive intensity.

BUT, we are talking about Kobe. Kobe is probably the one player who brings fear to the opposition in terms of offense. Sure there is Shaq and the Class of '03 and what not, but Shaq is Shaq. People just say "We can't stop him, we just want to slow him down" The rookie class ain't at Kobe's level yet either. No one wants to be embarrassed by Kobe. And so they always bring their A game to the table. Problem is, their A game is still demolished by Kobe. And when some team doesn't bring their A game to the table, they get 81 points scored on them.

I'm just saying, Kobe or Artest. And I believe that 99% will take Kobe. As for the rest of the team, I think it's pretty even. That is why I think the Lakers will be better. But again, that's my opinion and I'm a heavily biased person. ^^

David Whang,

I agree with exhelodrvr, each one of these teams' ability is highlighted by HUGE question marks. When everything shakes out the only thing you can count on is Kobe and for that reason I give the Lakers a slight edge.

On another note, does Francisco Garcia have the funniest voice in the NBA or what? I remember an interview after one of the NCAA Tournament games and starting rolling when I heard the guy. If you haven't heard him speak, try to find it on the internet, it's worth the effort.

I think we'll be better than Sacramento, but I think it'll be closer than most people think. Neither team matches up particularly well against the other defensively - Kobe, with work, will get the better of Artest, but we've never had anybody to stop bibby. And Miller really can't be covered by Kwame, he's got too much range on his shot.

I think the real question is, who plays D on Artest? I don't know if we've got anyboyd with the combination of strength and speed needed.

Still, I figure Ron will implode for at least a week this year.

Andrew Z,
"but I think the Grizzlies (stupid name by the way now that they're located in Memphis, but I digress"

Sounds like a good topic for a thread. Inappropriate team names. Grizzlies isn't as bad as Lakers, since at least they have bears in Tennessee. But neither is as bad as the Utah Jazz.

i find it amusing that many of you de-value players on this roster that you personally do not like (ie mihm or smush) and at the same time hike up their value in trade talk. in one post it'll be that mihm is worthless and should be the third string center behind kwame "i decided to show up for 2 months of the season" brown and andrew bynum, who still looks lost 75% of the time hes on the court. but as soon as you want to talk about trades mihm becomes a valuable asset to other teams. you can't have it both ways. same with mckie who most (i as well) feel really does not bring anything to this team, at least on the court. but he always seems to find a place in trade proposals. why would anybody want him if we don't? many of you de-value cook and say he can't play defense and doesn't bring the intensity and all around offensive game necessary to play yet throw him in in every trade proposal. all i'm saying is be consistent with your evaluations of players and if you want to call a player trash and say he's worthless to the lakers you can't really expect another team to pick up all our junk for a legit player or even all star.

the one exception to all of this is expiring contracts such as was the case in the harrington talks. but if you want to say the reasoning is exprining contracts don't hype up a player when you honestly don't think he's worth a spot in the nba

exhelodrvr,

in response to your comment about the grizzlies name being stupid now that they're in memphis:

the lakers name has its roots in minneapolis as do the dodgers from their days in brooklyn. so are the lakers and dodgers names stupid now that they both reside in los angeles?

Whether it's fighting for the right to play in the finals or for a better seeding in the lower tiered area of the playoffs we all still manage to come out and bring fire back to this great rivalry(Which in my opinion has been the best rivalry in the NBA during the late 90's and early 00's).

But, I agree with Andrew Z no matter how much we hope both teams have alot of questions that need to be answered.

Question 1: Is Kwame going to continue growing and playing at the high level that he has shown he can do?

Question 2: Can Smush prove his mental toughness and become less of a liability on the defensive end?

Question 3: Is there anyone that can alleviate the burden that Kobe has the shoulder every game?

And etc etc etc

For the Kings:

1: Is Ron Ron going to behave?(I hope not! The newspapers need to write about somebody!)

2: Is the non-signing of Bonzi Wells going to be a smart move or not?

3: Is the firing of Adelman going to be a smart move or bad move?

And etc etc etc..

I'll leave it up to you all to fight this one out and maybe I'll weigh in if I have anything relevant to say. But, I digress I'll leave it to the more capable hands of you regular posters!

Exholdrver,

Your "Everybody is out to get Kobe" rant made me laugh. Kudos.

AK

exhelodrvr,

Dude, the Utah Jazz made me laugh out loud. I can't believe I've never taken the time to think about that. I think Utah and Memphis should petition the league offices to switch names. The Utah Grizzlies and Memphis Jazz. Seems to make more sense.

Taka,
Absolutely!

taka,

I know you're not talking to me because I say Mihm has very little trade value. A 1st rounder for Mihm...LOL! Yeah, right.

Mihm as an emergency back-up so we can go back to being a 500 ballclub...yeah right.

mike

Speaking of the nasty north and the dirty south...hey you gotta rep your hood...know what I'm talkin about?

You'll love this one:

http://www.truwarier.com/ra.html

Thank God he's on myyyyyyyyy team. Fire it up. Bring em' on. 56 days and a wake-up!

LakerTom-

By best case scenario, I was speaking in terms of if everything goes right, if the suns and moons line up, etc. Then they'd have a shot at sneaking up into the six spot or so, and push 50 wins. But the bulk of my evaluation was based on what I think will happen, how I think guys will play, etc. (basically, what I believe will be the reality, as opposed to best or worst case).

What I think will happen, which I hope I made clear, is that they'll fight to make the postseason, and if they get there, it's likely as an eight. And I won't quite say where I think the Lakers will end up this year... but I will say I don't think it'll be the three seed (hahaha). But I applaud your optimism!

BK

mike t,

course not. you are one of the rare ones that has been consistent, especially with your distaste for mihm (which i honestly don't understand). there aren't that many 7 footers in the league anymore that can give you 10 pts, 6 rebounds, and more than a block in 26 minutes as well as shoot 74% from the line. and even if you dislike him why would you get rid of him? bigs are a luxury in the league. in your eyes he obviously doesn't have any trade value so you might as well keep him and get the 10 and 6.3 you can get from him.

even when kwame was playin his best (granted against a front line that started diaw in the middle) during the playoffs kwame only avged 13 and 6.5 rebounds in 32 minutes. i think mihm would be able to pick up another 3 points and a board in the extra 6 minutes.

As for all the "why isn't the Times covering Kobe!" stuff, I don't think it's a big deal. And I certainly don't think it's a conspiracy. A) it's an incredibly expensive assignment for what would likely end up a feature- I can't imagine the coverage of his daily activities (Kobe does a clinic here, appears on a talk show there) would be enough to warrent some sort of daily dispatch. And unless something is happening over there that I don't understand, I'm not sure a feature would be all that interesting, either.

B, the nature of what he's doing over there- essentially a promotional tour, makes it less newsworthy and interesting in my mind. Compare this trip to say, Hines Ward who visited South Korea with the mission of helping alleviate discrimination against mixed race children, I belive. That's a much more compelling story. Everyone already knows Kobe is popular overseas.

Gotta be honest, I just don't find Kobe's tour all that compelling. Maybe I'm missing something, but assuming I'm not, I don't see any evil in this one, guys.

BK

Starter comparison:

the 1: smush vs. bibby
ok, this is easy, bibby is better. I still like smush and think he's going to surpise alot of you this year.

the 2: kobe vs. kevin martin
ok, this is easier than the first one. I dont need to say anything else.

the 3: lamar or vlad vs ron ron
now it gets a bit more complicated. Out of the three, who is the best player? Vlad gets cancelled out but i honestly cannot say that i would pick ron ron over lamar. Yes of course i am biased, but im speaking as unbiasally as i can. Ron ron is quite a talent but so is lamar. In my opinion, lamar is lebron before lebron arrived. He's big and can play basically every position, a triple double threat ever night. Ron artest is very solid on D and has some good offensive skills. Lamar is a much better passer though. If everything was to pan out perfectly (both live up to supreme potential), i belive odom would be better than ron ron. Thats just the offensive side of the ball though. On defense, its pretty close, i think. That is ron artest's fortay but we know, well atleast i do, that lamar is quite a presence as well. Without going analytical, i'll jus give the edge to artest on D. In the end though, I personally, would have to take lamar. A triple double is a beautiful thing. Plus his leadership goes unnoticed.

the 4: lamar or vlad vs. shareef
Best player of the bunch, lamar, hands down. Refer back to the 3 for his analysis. Lets jus say vlad vs. shareef (if it was lamar vs. shareef, come on now, its obvious). Shareef is more proven. He was a 20-10 or close to 20-10 type of guy for a while. Even avergaed over a steal and over a block with 20-10 for a few years, but it was never consistent. Then again, he was never on a winning team, he played hard though. He's like kenyon martin, a mid range game, some back to the basket moves, good on the boards, even flow on D (you know what you're going to get; an effot at the least). Vlad has been in the league for 5 years. The best year he had was with seattle, when he was a 12 points 5 boards and 1 steal type of guy. In his stint with the clips, he averaged 11 points, 6 boards, 2 assists, and almost a steal. You can attempt to evaluate him but he wasnt always a starter in seattle. He never got conisistent playing time. He was in and out of the line up for the past two years. Seattle wasnt a winner either, not up until 2 years ago but then look what happened to them. He's never had proper structure or coaching, much like shareef, but shareef was always a starter and usually the star of the team (back in his atlanta days; who else can you name on his atlanta squad??? didnt think so). We know vlad can shoot; unlike shareef, he has an outside shot. He never shoots from anywhere else so i cant judge his mid-range or inside game. For his size, he should be able to rebound (atleast 6 or so a game, at minimum), which i think he will do. Ok, so i think shareef is a better player (though older) at this point, but vlad can still turn into a bigger force. So i guess its all even. What it comes down to is what would you rather have? Shareef on a sacramento team with more weapons, used more often than him or vlad on the lakers, with penatrators and drive n dish oppurtunites which sets up wide open shots which happpens to be your fortay plus you practice and better your shot (i hope)? Again, the least bias possible, gotta go with vlad. Damn, that was long, sorry.

the 5: kwame vs. brad
You know what brad brings, he's pretty good in my estimation. Kwame is kind of like vlad, never had the system or coaching, now he does. We know what he did during the second half of the season. We are all banking on him doing that and atleast a tad bit more this year. Throw in youth, brad has alot of knee problems while kwame is barely becoming a man. Compare defense, kwame may not get blocks, but he can guard pretty well. Brad is ok, nothing special though, atleast i dont think so. Defensive edge goes to kwame. Rebounding, almost even par but brad's stats are a lil better. Again we're banking on kwame being able to produce atleast one or two more boards which will equal them out. Kwame still has potential to grow and improve, mature. Brad is brad. Better offensive moves, no doubt. I dont know, you guys tell me which one you would take. I'm leaning more towards kwame but maybe thats jus gut reaction because im a laker.

Anywho, i think AK's assesment was pretty good. We're gonna be better than the queens, you better trust and believe. Ok, this is waaayyyyy to long, sorry.

p.s. - taliq, completely agree with everything u've said and if u dont mind, im borrowing your phrase, in kobe we trust. Ya damn right!!!

taka,

I do think a lot of talk, at least from me, when I include a player like McKie is strictly salary and expiring contracts. I for one think Mihm does have value around the league. Seven footers always get a lot of attention, and Mihm definitely has above average skills, especially on the offensive end. As for Cook, guys that can come in and provide instant offense like he can will always have a spot in the NBA (I'm just waiting for him to play with Phoenix next year and knock down seven threes on us) but I think he became expendable to a point, when Vlad was signed.

Anyway, I think trades in the NBA are more about the dollars involved than the actual players, whereas most people that propose trades don't understand that aspect of the deal or at least don't take it into account.

OK, lets get something perfectly clear....the Queens have never been nor will they ever be better than the Lakers. If you think that Sacramento is better than the Lakers (ahhhhem RM & Sonny) then you are somewhat retarded. Lets be real, no one on that squad can guard Kobe (even Artest, proven last season) and Kwame is going to be throwing their bigs around like rag-dolls. Bibby and abdul-raheem are both deteriorating fast and the queens just don't have it. Get over it.

R.I.P. Shoutout to my man Steve the crock hunter, huge loss, may he rest in peace and his legacy live on forever, bless his family.

Sorta unrelated... sorry, i just had to share this seeing not many people have talked bout kobe and Team USA

Some things Team USA need to improve on:

- Motion Offence... a simple motion offence u learn in high school so that they won't need to go 1-on-5 against teams who are playing a zone defence

- Defence... Was it me or did Greece get multiple baskets off backdoor cuts, screen and rolls and sometimes basically walked into the paint for an easy lay up?

- Shooting... they need shooters or need to improve their shooting. Players have got to be at least sort of automatic... although I'm probably thinking more of player selection than anything else...

- Change their mindset... I read that Lebron said that the team waits for their run and then they're set... I'm just left thinknig about what if the run never happens... then what do they do? Are they really good enough/experienced enough to execute down the stretch?

All in all, this team just needs more time together. They did a lot of good things at least. Their full court presses were effective; they played with energy and a lot more heart than in 2004; and they seemed to treat their opponents much more seriously.

For their tournament in the Americas, I believe that Team USA should select the following players if they want to win:

Centers/Power Forwards

They should have Amare Stoudamire and Dwight Howard back. I'd ditch Brad Miller, Elton Brand and Chris Bosh so that I can take on board other players.

Small Forwards/Shooting Guards

Ok, you've got Melo, Lebron and Wade in already for obvious reasons. Then you add Kobe Bryant; who they could have used, Kobe will give them a shooter/scorer/leader who will probably play All-NBA defence on the international stage. Paul Pierce has had experience playing for team USA and can shoot also. I think he could fit into this team too.

Then it comes down to choosing either Michael Redd and his shooting or Battier and his hustle. In the end though, with Kobe on the team; I don't see the need for either.

Point Guards

Kirk Hinrich should have been cut anyways. Chris Paul is good but on a team you need to make cuts. I think I will need to cut those two and add Billups and Areans. Chancey should be added and should start for Team USA. Billups is a good shooter who is also experienced and is unselfish. Plays good defence and will help lead this team. Arenas isn't really a PG but I have read that he had agreed to change his role to distribute the ball and take shots when they come to him. That impressed me.

Well, I've got 10 players listed so in the end, my team would be as follows:

C: Stoudamire
F: James
F: Anthony
G: Kobe
G: Billups

C: Howard
F: Pierce
F: Marion
G: Wade
G: Arenas

Well, that's my team. What's all of yours?

I'm not saying that this team will be able to win that tournament easily but I think that this team would be better suited to the international game if these players were able to be selected.

Obviously, the team's stars will need to take lesser roles and also learn to be patient and learn the game.

The beauty of the team I selected is that you have players like James, Marion who can play that 4 spot in international compeition just like how Team USA used them in this tournament I believe. You have experienced NBA veterans in Paul Pierce, Kobe Bryant and Chauncey Billups who can all defend and shoot the ball. Oh, I need to say that Kobe Bryant is the best talent in the world of basketball. You've got the core of the 2006 team from this year and adding players who are upgrades in each of their positons and with Coach K back, I think this team would be able to do well at the torunament of the Americas.

I'm sure Team USA will be able to do that!

Thanks!

And on topic: Kings stink... only team not LA I'm looking forward to seeing are Toronto and houston... then again.... I love LA more!

taka,

O yeah, I keep on forgetting about Mihm's 7 foot advantage. You're right about that. But I still don't believe he's worth a 1st rounder in a trade proposal, unless Jerry West does us a favor. With the Memphis center going down for 3 months you would think they would be interested in Mihm. Then, add the fact that Mitch is Jerry's student, why would Jerry inquire about Mihm? With that said, I bet Jerry doesn't. Jerry West is a hard man, hardcore basketball man...he wouldn't take Mihm.

Years ago when Jerry was coach of the Lakers, the Lakers traded for a guy named Ernie DiGregorio. The guy was an excitement type player. He was a play maker. Well, anyway, I remember the Lakers trading for him during West's tenture as coach. I remember reading that Jerry wasn't happy with that pick up because Ernie D. couldn't play any defense. Ernie D. got cut.

Moral of the story? Well, just let me say...Jerry wouldn't touch Mihm even though he's in despreate need of a center.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernie_DiGregorio

mike

sonny:

Now remember to be nice and respectful to all of your new friends who appreciate your role as a Kings ambassador rather than agitator.

Muy gracias.

Tom

Gina:

Or they just might not like Kobe as suspected.

Tom

Damn, BK 8th seed? thats pretty harsh and thats being spoken by a true negative person please don't turn into Steve Hartman.

Edwin:

Don’t worry. If a bad contract and bad attitude don’t deter the Miles fan club, why should bad knees?

Tom

Exhelodrvr:

“Trading Mihm for a first round pick could be a smart move depending on the projected finish of the team you are trading with and the projected strength of the draft next year.”

Now, ex, you sure you really want to go out on that limb so far? JK. Oh, yeah, you forgot to add:

“and depending on how Kwame and Bynum do this year, which Laker players avoid getting injured, which underclass college players to opt for the draft, what teams qualify for the lottery, and who will be the next chief justice."

Tom

I would field the following and make Kobe and Chauncey captains:

PF/ Centers:
Amare, Howard, Brand, Miller, Lamar

SF:
Melo, Lebron, Lamar,

SG:
Kobe, Wade

PG:
CP3, Billups

Marcus,

No Smush? haha.

AK

AK

Remeber how I wasn't getting you calling the SONICS the enemy or putting them in the same LEVEL as NOK and da JAAZ? I tell ya I GET this:"know thy enemy: SACRAMENTO" They are the enemy. the ONE and ONLY and ALWAYS.

SCTO QUEENS: the KINGS of the LIST, LAKERS will be watching for this year

there are a FEW LAKER killers in this league. They play their BEST when they suit up aginst the P&G and won't seem to be able to MISS. the KING of whom is MAIKE "the snake" BIBBY. how many times have you seen MIKE bringing up the BALL, get a high PICK from one of the big men, STEP BACK and hit a DEVESTATING THREE against us. I hate (LOVE it as a LAKER fan) the AQUSITION of EricMusleman for their team. If the EGOSS get inot the WAY of PLAYERS' CHEMISTRY, Eric will be as good as he was when the WARRIOR chemistry wasn't INTACT. OTHERWISE, I think if this team STAYS together and ACCEPT Artest as their leader, MUSLE can help them with their basketball CHEMISTRY. E-MUSS will get them ready for any situation they'll face running their FAVORITE (PRINCTON) style of offense. the PROBLEM would only be if they LOOSE their FAITH in the LEADERSHIP ability of JUNGLE RON in which case hiring MUSS will be a big MISS. SACTOs ARE ONE OF THE FEW NBA TEAMS, WITH A ROSTER ABLE TO WIN THE WORLD GAMEs. They will be DEEP and will have a POISENOUS STING on the OFFENSIVE side. their 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 wil kill you on the PREMETER, they'll REBIE the ball and RUN AT YOU. CHEMISTRY is the(DI) key to thier SUCCESS.

AK;

I just knew you were going to dump on Bonzi again. Haha. I will say it again. Bonzi is going to give some lucky team a 20 ppg/10 rpg player this year with zero off-court problems.

Of course, since he didn’t take the Kings early offer of $38M for 5 years, you will no doubt scream “contract season” again in order to put your personal asterisk next to the “career” year he is going to give some team, hopefully in the East.

I will remind you of your prediction at the end of the year. Not to say I told you so, of course, but just to help you hone your “objectivity.” LOL.

Your overall assessment is pretty accurate though. I would characterize the Kings gains and losses as:

“Ron Artest for a full year but Salmons is no Bonzi.”

Tom

I think it was a huge mistake to hire Musselman, and fire Addelman (granted I didn't like Addelman either) but at least he's a wiener (I mean a winner, seriously, just misspelled). I'm not sure how far Musselman would go...in my opinion the best years in GS are his best years...then again, I don't believe in underestimating opponents. So I'll just say, since they are a part of our division...it shouldn't and doesn't matter if they're better or we're better...we need to play our best and beat them (or beat anyone we can for that matter).

Center:
I think Kwame can be a poor man's Big Ben (and so does PJ). As such, I think that his potential can be utilized best by starting him and running a few set plays through him at the beginning of the game, much like Larry Brown used to do for Ben. I would play Kwame about 30 min a game against most teams and give Mihm 5-10 min at center and Bynum 5-10 min at center

PF:
I think it pretty likely that Lamar will start at PF; I would give him 30 min at PF most nights. I would also give Mihm 5-10 min at PF (I think he will be a better PF than C due to his 12-15 ft range, but he is just weak and slow...I like Braveheart more at PF, but both are foul junkies) and Braveheart 5-10 min at PF

SF:
I would start Vlad at this position and give him about 30 min a game. I would also give Lamar 5-10 min a game at SF; same w/ Hollywood (Luke).

SG:
Kobe all the way w/ Evans subbin

PG:
I would start Smush; Shammond and Farmar will have to fight for pt.

Sasha, Cookie, McKie, and co. are off my radar.

Oops, I forgot Paul Pierce on my olympic roster. I would have put Arenas in over him, but I think Gil assassinated his Olympic self.

AK,
Haha -- I love Smush, and I think that with his size, speed, and talent he can be a great asset to the Lakers. Everyone knows Kobe choked in the playoffs once, too. With Kobe riding Smush hard all offseason, making him shoot all day and Smush having all the PG's breathing down his back I expect him to be much improved over last season. Last season was a great season for one with his lack of NBA experience.

Exhelodrvr:

“The LA Times is out to get Kobe by not following him on his Asian trip. And the NBA is out to get him by not putting his best pictures in the photo-of-the-year contest. Mitch got rid of Shaq just so Kobe wouldn't win any more titles! Everybody is out to get Kobe!! Even Kobe is out to get him. Why else would he miss that shot at the end of game 6 in the playoffs?”

Ex, I’m really worried about you. Psychiatrists say that being obsessively pessimistic often can lead to serious depression as well as fanatical fixation on outrageous conspiracy theories. And we know what you think about “fanatics.” I hope you are going to be OK. Why don’t you repeat after me…"The Kid II will save the day…The Kid II will save the day….The Kid II…"

Tom

Laker Tom,

Considering Bonzi has never averaged 20/10 his entire career, won't likely join a squad where he gets the opportunity to put up 20/10, the grand majority of players don't start putting up 20/10 at age 30/10th year in the league (especially after having plenty of opportunities in the past), and Bonzi's more or less had issues every one of those 9 previous seasons (save the contract year), I'm willing to risk your chiding. haha

AK

Taka you are spot on with your observation that many of the Laker faithful devalue certain players (Mihm, Smush, Kwame fill in the blank) in one sentence and in the next they are making them out to be the hottest commodity on the trading block.

I like Mihm myself and wouldnt trade him, some of you guys are selling the guy short when it comes to his play. He plays hard and is more consistent then Kwame. Kwame plays soft. Dude looks lost half the time he is on the court the other half of the time I swear he is doing everything he can to not get the ball in his hands. The guy is 7 foot and misses layups more then any player I have ever seen. He is the second coming of Elden Campbell except he fumbles more balls then good old baby huey.
We should give Kwame his minutes let him put up some numbers and at the first chance contact Isiah or another sucker manager and unload him.

Peace & Love

exhelodrvr:

Hey, I agree that the best oxymoron in the NBA is the Utah Jazz.

And who would of thought: The Memphis Grizzlies led by a Frenchman, the Utah Jazz led by a Russian, the Houston Rockets led by a Chinese, and the Toronto Raptors led by an Italian. Welcome to the new world-wide NBA.

Tom

Tom

Marcus,

No, I was just playing. I've said many times that I think people lost sight of how good a season Smush actually had, in terms of what could realistically be expected. Ideally, I still think he's a back up point guard. But I also don't think he truly hurt the team until the playoffs, either. Up until then, he found ways to at least offset some of his deficiencies.

And as you mentioned, Smush gets a shot at redeeming himself. A lot lies in his own hands (and mind).

AK

taka:

Actually, while the “Lakers” as a name originally came from Minneapolis, Wikipedia now defines "Lakers" as "a special type of basketball player with almost supernatural powers and abilities, for example Jerry West, Magic Johnson, and Kobe Bryant.”

Tom

Notice how I'm not jumping in to the Smush discussion? Some restraint huh? LOL...jk

Lakertom, is that for real? too lazy to check it out...but if Lakers really is defined by that... FREAKY!

 
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