Not to Get All Technical, But Shouldn't He Be Sending 24 Kids?
August 5, 2006 | 9:22
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I mean, with the new number kicking in next season and such, eight students seems sooooo "my first 10 seasons in the NBA" ago.
But either way, it's a very cool gesture by Kobe.
—AK



See you ESPN guys are never satisfied, if it's not one thing, it's another.
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Big props to Kobe for what he's doing. It's true what he says, it's great to know how other countries live and get exposure to their culture.
On the Kcal9's website there's a video of Kobe with the students having dinner, in an Italian restaurant if you guys want to check it out.
Posted by: lakofan | August 05, 2006 at 09:45 AM
VERY colo gesture by Kobe, indeed. I wonder if the number of students he chose had to do with his old number 8? hmm...
Posted by: blaze1bx | August 05, 2006 at 09:58 AM
I wonder if ESPN.com's Chris Sheridan will find some sort of negative spin on this, as an excuse to paint Kobe in an unflattering manner. Something like, "C'mon, folks, can a multi-million dollar athlete like Kobe Bryant really only afford to send eight students to Italy. When will this got stop being so selfish?"
At any rate, I think it's really cool. Those eight students will be affected by this gesture for the rest of their lives.
Posted by: Martin | August 05, 2006 at 10:08 AM
what's the url for kcal9's website
Posted by: Taliq | August 05, 2006 at 10:20 AM
AK/BK
Did you get a new gig at ESPN and not tell us? That could be a travesty, I mean, then we might not get that calendar you have been promising.
Posted by: Elyse | August 05, 2006 at 10:26 AM
ELDER STATESMAN KOBE -
Hey I posted this before but it was at the very end of a thread and may have been overlooked.
Do you realize that except for McKie (who is likely on his way out) and new guy Shammond, Kobe is now the OLDEST player on the Lakers? Wow, times change quickly.
Posted by: Jay Jay | August 05, 2006 at 10:51 AM
This guy has class and I applaud him for this golden oppurtunity given to the fortunate 8. Some one will find something wrong with it though.
Smart move Kobe - get past the horrible past in Colorado and into a new image, Still can't beleive all that happened. Thanks for presenting this kind of information, it is rare to find positive press on Kobe. ESPN and the majority of the media has it out for him. Maybe he told someone he's a republican! Hahahahaha!
Posted by: Pete Maguire | August 05, 2006 at 11:10 AM
lakofan, you're not serious right?
Posted by: Xodus | August 05, 2006 at 11:49 AM
Jay Jay,
Yup it was just a few years ago that Kobe was one of the young bucks on the team. Now he's the grizzled veteran.
Posted by: Xodus | August 05, 2006 at 11:56 AM
Jayjay,
Remember 10 years ago, KB has this afro look, no tattoos on his body and very amiable kid. There is a complete attendance from the Bryant family in every game he played including in the summer league with Fisher at the Pyramid. When the season started the family followed him at the Great Western Forum. Jelly bean Bryant became a byword oltimer because of his famous son.
That's a noble way of inculcating to these American teens the italian values Kobe learned in his youth. If Kobe did not come back Merion High, PA, he could have been an international player, playing in the NBA or perhaps, representing Italy in this FIBA games.
Posted by: Edwin Gueco | August 05, 2006 at 12:22 PM
AK,
i know you weren't serious with your comment, but i think the 8 there is because he spent 8 years of his childhood in Italy, not because his jersey number is (or was) 8.
Posted by: Jumper | August 05, 2006 at 01:31 PM
The two biggst lunkheads in the league bumping heads, and on Christmas no less, again. Karma is a good thing.
Posted by: sonnybelfast | August 05, 2006 at 01:35 PM
Taliq,
http://cbs2.com/sports/
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Xodus,
No I am not serious, I was just kidding, because of AK's post title.
Posted by: lakofan | August 05, 2006 at 01:50 PM
Lakofan's comment was hilarious! And so was Elyse's calendar comment. LOL
Congrats to the 8 people, I'm sure the international experience will teach them a whole lot.
Posted by: Faith | August 05, 2006 at 03:59 PM
The best player in soccer and the best player in the NBA:
http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/71593129.jpg?v=1&c=MS_GINS&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF193875DCB1DD8387ABB3E3B0C6E93937960
http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/71593127.jpg?v=1&c=MS_GINS&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF193875DCB1DD8387ABB1FB68E1923EBFC72
http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/71593124.jpg?v=1&c=MS_GINS&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF193875DCB1DD8387ABBB838CDF706D590C9
http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/71593116.jpg?v=1&c=MS_GINS&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF193875DCB1DD8387ABB7A7375376860BD6B
http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/71593128.jpg?v=1&c=MS_GINS&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF193875DCB1DD8387ABB2D07D13A3BA9CF0C
I don't know if Ronaldinho speaks English, but he is fluent in Spanish and Kobe speaks Spanish.
Great to see Kobe promoting other sports and specially with Ronaldinho, he is a very nice person and a great player.
Posted by: lakofan | August 05, 2006 at 08:43 PM
I think this is a great gesture. BUT, I remember Chick always "leaking" news of Kobe's charitable efforts back when Kobe was trying to keep it on the down-low. So, anyone who wants to paint this as some sort of repair-image thing, should really look back and see that Kobe has always been about the kids. That was one of the few things that both he and Shaq had in common.
Posted by: Fearless | August 05, 2006 at 09:16 PM
great site with very good look and perfect information...i like it
Posted by: Litfaßsäule | August 05, 2006 at 09:22 PM
Fearless,
I was thinking the same thing, this is nothing new to Kobe. But a lot of people are getting caught up in this "Kobe image repair" thing.
dan
Posted by: dan the man aka smushcalade | August 05, 2006 at 09:34 PM
Shaq was a Reserve Police Offier for LAPD. I believe he affected many more people by projecting a POSITIVE IMAGE off the court for a man over SEVEN FEET tall.
What Kobe is doing was orchestrated by his agent to get back in the good graces of corporate America. Why send EIGHT kids out of the country, when he could help thousands of lower income inner-city kids? He could have started by offering inner-city school children or organizations in their areas, computer learning centers or resource centers to help assist at-risk-kids in learning and leadership qualities.
OUT!!!
the Truth
Posted by: Steven. | August 05, 2006 at 09:48 PM
Lakofan - Thanks for your pics. I guess Nike was behind this event. Do you know where this was happening?
Did you see the youtube link in which Kobe was kicking a soccer ball in the net? That was a real nice shot. It can explain us where he's got some quick moves.
Nash (learned it in Vancouver, Canada) and Dirk N. (in Germany) also used to play soccer, sometimes, in Dallas. In LA, I'm sure you can add Ronny(coming from France - Martinique) and Shammond (coming from Barcelona) can show some moves too.
That's it for today. Now, we go back to basketball.
LakerTom, Edwin Gueco - Guys, Do you think that we can expect from Mitch K. some big movements in our roster before Hawaï, despite Mihm and Cook surgeries? They are our main baits. And what about some moves after the beginning of the season?.
GO
Posted by: Guy Owanlele | August 05, 2006 at 09:52 PM
Lakeofan
Nice pics. "Nothing But The Best" shouldve been the title of those pics LOL. To see probably the best soccer and basketball players together mustve been great for the ppl there.
Fearless & Smushcalade (like the name)
All the LAKERFANS KNOW about his charity work. Its the rest of the world that seems to be ignorant about his charity work. Some ppl see Kobe as "the rapist" or "the guy who made shaq leave" and those are the ppl that didnt know about his work and are the ones being suprised by all the things that he does. I think its a good thing that he gets some public notice on his charity work so everyone can see all the things he does. Like Ive said before this is the beginning of a new chapter. Even though he is still the same Kobe he is opening up a bit more so everyone can see he isnt this loner who doesnt get along with anyone. Like I said next season will be even better for the Lakers and Kobe. Dont be suprised if his jersey is the number #1 seller all season long.
White & Yellow trimming
Baby Blue throwback
Yellow & Gold trimming
Black & Gold trimming
Those will be the first ones ill be lookign for and then the All-Star jersey, which as everyone knows he will be there with the 2nd most votes to Yao. Seriously how can Kobe compare to a whole country? LOL. Maybe Italy should triple their population so they can compete with China.Hmmm Food for thought LOL.
GO LAKERS!!!!
Posted by: Shady | August 05, 2006 at 10:34 PM
Guy Owanlele,
It was in Hollywood, the pics say Hollywood and Highland, it was a rally to welcome FC Barcelona, and it was sponsor by nike.
But Kobe in an interview said he was a fan of FC Barcelona and a fan of Ronaldinho and Rafa Marquez.
I did see that commercial, I actually saw it on television. I saw the one about the nike soccer chain. Where Kobe does tricks with the soccer ball.
And by the look of this pic: http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/71593129.jpg?v=1&c=MS_GINS&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF193875DCB1DD8387ABB3E3B0C6E93937960 they are exchanging numbers, that's cool, like I said before the best soccer player and the best basketball player interacting is great.
Posted by: lakofan | August 05, 2006 at 11:19 PM
Dan,
That got me to thinking. We really miss what Chick used to bring to the broadcasts. He really knew who these guys were behind the scenes. When Chick would say something was out of charecter for a player, we knew to trust his judgement.
Also, he had enough clout that he could walk up to the coach and tell him that that was a bonehead play called and that's why we lost the game.
He knew everything about every player and could pull them right out of his own head. I don't even remember my own stats!
--Fearless
Posted by: Fearless | August 05, 2006 at 11:55 PM
Great gesture by Kobe, once again. We can think this or that about him, but the experience those kids get more than outweighs his at-large public image.
Posted by: #4 | August 06, 2006 at 12:02 AM
Fearless,
Yeah, I don't know how he did it. Even up until his last game he was so sharp! The guy could give a perspective that is unmatched. He always put a face and meaning behind of all of the numbers and stats he would pull out. Man, I miss Chick every day, there will never be another.
dan
Posted by: dan the man aka smushcalade | August 06, 2006 at 12:34 AM
Guy O.
"Do you think we can expect from Mitch K. somebig movements in our roster before Hawaii despite Mihm and Cook surgeries? Any other moves at the beginning of the season."
Frankly, when you mentioned our Laker GM Mitch Cupcake, I'm completely BLANK and so with this blog. We don't really know what he has in his mind, there seems to be no excitement on Harrington deal in the Front Office except this blog. Well, the Warriors and T'Wolves as well as the Pacers have expressed their serious desire in their pursuits as reported in basketball news websites but with regards to the Lakers, the only stories we get is Kobe's generous offer for the teens to visit Italia.
In fact, Lakers missed the boat on a veteran PG, Steve Blake. All the while even this blog thought that the only time the Blazers would release Blake is to accompany it with Darius Miles. This week, there was a trade sending Blake plus two centers to Bucks in exchange of Magloire. I think Mihm is better than Magloire. Perhaps, Mitch K. did not really intend to shop for a veteran PG because he thinks we have enough PG in our roster. So far, the Lakers have still 18 players and they have to cut it down to 15 but only 12 can play, when is this going to happen? Nobody knows, we can speculate it for the next two months.
So Guy O, don't be surprised if there will be no more activity in the Lakers till next year.
Posted by: Edwin Gueco | August 06, 2006 at 12:40 AM
Steven
You aint Kobe so shut ur big mouth man..Maybe, you have that ideas so maybe you could start your own charity..Oh sorry, you still living in your mom's trailer..
Get lost and go hug your shaq-daddy!
Posted by: Brylle | August 06, 2006 at 12:42 AM
Steven, self proclaimed truth-
Going abroad and learning about other cultures is invaluable. Maybe if more people within our own country had an appreciation for other cultures and a better understanding of the importance of being tolerant of differences, we might be able to aviod some of the present conflicts we are currently engaged in. Being bitter because Kobe is doing what he can to give people the understanding that he got by living in Italy, to people who otherwise would not have that opportunity is a wonderful thing, and has nothing to do with "image" or "corporate america". Image repair comes when he scores 81 points, not when he sends 8 kids to Italy. As admirable as it is, few people will read about it.
Elyse
The other truth
Posted by: Elyse | August 06, 2006 at 01:19 AM
steven,
you know what......nah! waste of time.I'd rather feed the big dog's ass.
Posted by: eugene | August 06, 2006 at 08:40 AM
Elyse,
I totally agree with you, learning other cultures is great and it helps understand how other people think and act.
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I don't know if someone posted this already:
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-adande6aug06,1,5061180.column?coll=la-headlines-sports&ctrack=1&cset=true
It's about yesterday's event of FC Barcelona and Kobe's presences.
I am glad Kobe is seeing the light at the end of the tunnel, it's about time for him to start enjoying his life and career.
I admire Kobe's dedication even if he can't work out his knee, he works his upper body and does all these exercises without hurting his knee. That's dedication, not having the excuse of well I just had surgery so I'll rest, Kobe is not like that, he continues to work hard even after surgery.
Posted by: lakofan | August 06, 2006 at 08:45 AM
WOW! This photos with KOBE and RONALDINHO are a dream for a BARCELONA (best soccer team in world actually) fan and a LAKERS (soon best Basketball team in the world) fan!
My two favourite players together!
GO LAKERS!
GO BARÇA!
Posted by: Alexinho17 | August 06, 2006 at 08:55 AM
First of all, people with money don't owe people without money anything. At all. Kobe is in a unique situation where he gets paid millions of dollars to play basketball, and whether it was through genetics, luck, training or unrelentless training, it's his money.
Kobe doing this is a great gesture, regardless of just *how* much he is doing.
Posted by: Evan | August 06, 2006 at 08:57 AM
Lakofan,
Thanks for the pics! Is anyone here going to the Barca/Chivas game today? I want tickets!
Posted by: Kevin McK | August 06, 2006 at 09:29 AM
Dan,
That is what makes me grateful that we have Stew. He's the only guy on the air that still mentions Chic and the stuff he brought to the broadcasts. It always seems like the other announcers are trying to forget about him.
That annoys me, because they all have a little bit of Chic in them. They can't help it -- he defined the position. He, Vin, and those guys from San Diego and Chicago are all the pioneers. I think they should just admit his contributions and accept who they are, followers.
The first year after he passed, no one used any Chick-isms. I've started to hear a few creap back into their vernaculars.
I'm really glad we have Stew. I think someone should tell him how important he is to keeping Chick's memory alive.
--Fearless
Posted by: Fearless | August 06, 2006 at 09:38 AM
Brylle and Elise,
Don't waste your time responding to the haters.
This guy is only here to try and rile people up. Apparently some people think that's a worthwhile way to pass the time.
Just ignore him like the rest of the bloggers. Eventually he'll get bored and leave.
Meanwhile, I wouldn't get excited about the Harrington deal too much. One way or the other.
Bynum should not be given up to get another SF/PF type. Especially since we have 4 others. 18 points per game on a really bad team is nothing to do cartwheels over. Still he would be a nice addition, if the Lakers don't have to give up too much.
We'll see what happens.
Lakers
Posted by: akr_68 | August 06, 2006 at 09:45 AM
Guys,
Have you seen that teams can now bring all 15 of their players into the playoffs? They can also choose which 12 play BEFORE EVERY GAME. This is exactly what Phil complained about after the Phoenix series because of the effects of injuries he was battling with. This makes a real difference to how the playoffs will run. This makes the decision on which players to cut much, much harder because even the old crusty guys on the team are suddenly more valuable if they have past playoff experience. Having that choice last season may have saved us from the Smush melt-down.
--Fearless
Posted by: Fearless | August 06, 2006 at 09:49 AM
Steven....is that you, I cant believe that they let you use a laptop next to the Slurpee machine.
Posted by: todd | August 06, 2006 at 10:06 AM
Fearless,
Stew is definetly cool. Chick taught him well. They were a dynamic duo if there ever was one!
It's interesting, the role that Stew has now. When Chick was here, Stew was in the back seat. In the years since Chick died, he has had to step up and become the teams top radio-man. And through the last few years we have seen a different side of him. One that makes me appriciate him that much more.
dan
Posted by: dan the man aka smushcalade | August 06, 2006 at 11:10 AM
Kevin McKm,
I looked for tickets for today's game a couple of days ago, but it was completly sold out.
Posted by: lakofan | August 06, 2006 at 11:25 AM
This is an article of Kobe's presentation yesterday with Barcelona(in FC Barcelona's website) there pictures and comments, but one thing the English translation is not as good as the original Spanish one.
English article:
http://www.fcbarcelona.com/eng/noticias/noticias/n06080603.shtml
Spanish:
http://www.fcbarcelona.com/esp/noticias/noticias/n06080603.shtml
In the spanish one it says:
Muy probablemente, los dos mejores jugadores del mundo de baloncesto y de fútbol, Bryant y Ronaldinho, estaban juntos, haciendo con la mano el gesto característico del crack brasileño. El desparpajo del líder de los Lakers, muy acostumbrado a este tipos de actos promocionales (éste estaba organizado por Nike), ha conectado rápidamente con el crack del Barça. Ambos, que no se conocían previamente, han acabado intercambiándose el número de móvil.
It says:
Probably the best player in soccer and basketball were together making the traditional sign of barca fans. The leader of the Lakers Kobe Bryant is used to all these kinds of promotional presentations(this one sponsor by nike). He has made an instant connection with Ronaldinho. They had never met before, but have finished exchanging cell phone numbers.
mientras Kobe Bryant, escondido bajo unas gafas de sol gigantes y vestido con una camiseta promocional de la gira con el nombre de 'Ronaldinho' a la espalda, esperaba en una punta de la tarima.
Meanwhile Kobe Bryant was hidding behind his big sunglasses and wearing a promotional tour t-shirt with "Ronaldinho" on the back, he was waiting on the stage corner( while the Barcelona players were talking to the crowd.)
I translated these paragraphs because their English translation was not written the same way, it was a different spin to it.
Posted by: lakofan | August 06, 2006 at 12:12 PM
Lakofan - You seem everywhere!! Keep doing it. We really need to be informed. I guess you play soccer a little bit. I've been playing this morning under the sun. Good for the cardio!!
Edwin G. - There's a kind of disappointment in your post. I agree with you: Mitch k. didn't show us clearly a direction. I was hoping a pressure from PJ to go for new effective players. As you said we still have 18 players when we must use 12. I don't know if it's a poker game. The salary cap will decide soon to make a move quickly. So let's wait a little bit. Be patient: We still have the blog to keep our hopes high by speculating!!
GO
Posted by: Guy Owanlele | August 06, 2006 at 01:16 PM
Steven may be a Kobe hatin', Shaq lovin', broke-backer (most of you) hatin' fan of NBA basketball, but apart from disagreeing with his assessment of Shaq's value as a reserve L.A.P.D. officer and Kobe's good turn with the eight children, I'm finding it difficult to see where the vitriol is coming from on this matter.
In my view, a core part of the problem is underscored in Elyse's comment: "Image repair comes when he (Kobe) scores 81 points, not when he sends eight kids to Italy". Really?
Posted by: sonnybelfast | August 06, 2006 at 01:29 PM
I think that we need to wait one more year before making any long-term decisions on Bynum. We still don't really know what we have yet. We have invested a lot of time on this kid and he may pan out. I believe that trading Bynum for Al would come back to bite us ass one day!
dan
Posted by: dan the man aka smushcalade | August 06, 2006 at 02:47 PM
Petrie is a genius who may have called a bluff and is preparing to rake em' in, although I am still in the dark about Bonzi. Before all is said and done, could there be a sign and trade in his future?
Could it be that you'll end up with Bonzi for any two; Bynum, Mihm or Kwame?
Posted by: sonnybelfast | August 06, 2006 at 03:32 PM
sonny-
While I do believe that Kobe gets most image repair from amazing basketball performances and perhaps some from articles about his charity work, I just believe that aside from dedicated fans who scrounge for any amount of information possible, a large number of people don't know about the charitable things that many athletes do. I don't think that is necessarily problematic, I mean, I watch sports because I am awed by athletic feats, and in the paper, I read articles about what I may or may not have noticed in what I saw. By and large, that is what I believe should be reported on.... at least nationally. And lets be honest, if it is image repair that is intended, articles about Kobe's good deeds would be well spent in markets less friendly to the aforementioned image. I realize espn occasionally picks up on these stories, but it is few and far between.
Basically, I was just trying to say that this wasn't in my mind an act of image repair, but merely a good deed that went noticed, but what gets even more noticed are when ATHLETES do amazing ATHLETIC FEATS. Why is there something wrong with that?
Posted by: Elyse | August 06, 2006 at 03:36 PM
cbs2 aired an interview with Kobe today:
http://cbs2.com/video/?cid=92 it's the second video, ah and there's an interview with Mr.O'neal, I didn't listen to that one.
Kobe talks about the schools he will open, high tech schools, also about team USA, his surgery.
Posted by: lakofan | August 06, 2006 at 04:03 PM
Wow Lakofan, you rock! Translating and everything...
I think Stu needs a better partner. I mean I agree that he's cool and all, I also love how he reminds us of Chick...but I just don't like that Joel guy, I don't know why. Plus when Kobe scored 81, he wasn't announcing, coincidence? I think not (lol, jk).
Guy O, and Edwin Gueco,
While I agree that there just doesn't seem to be as much enthusiasm and action from the front office as compared to Da Blog, I don't think that necessarily means nothing is going on. After all, they've never really been known to broadcast their actions...and if they were, we were lied to, here I was hoping for Speedy, and we get Rad Vlad and Shammond (though that might have more to do with certain circumstances, like money). So I'd just wait and see. The biggest thing for me, is they have to do something about the roster, and in my mind the easiest way to go about it is to trade. The hitch to my very own wait and see plan is I too believe that we won't do anything until the trade deadline...so forget I said anything lol. But then again, I've been wrong a lot lately, like my post on drafting Farmar lol.
Posted by: Faith | August 06, 2006 at 04:03 PM
Faith,
I used to like Joel until I heard about how he stabbed Paul Sunderland in the back to get the gig. I thought it was poetic that after all that, he didn't broadcast the 81-point game.
I thought that Paul was improving and had reached the level of competence of Joel, anyway. But, business is business. Karma is Karma, too. We must all remember that.
--Fearless
Posted by: Fearless | August 06, 2006 at 07:30 PM
heres a video of kobe at hollywood when barcelona came
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2j19-eUY2Ls
Posted by: TrueLakerFan | August 06, 2006 at 07:57 PM
here's one you guys will find funny...lolz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8k3vRoC-jY
Posted by: TrueLakerFan | August 06, 2006 at 07:59 PM