Phil's Final Conference
Monday in El Segundo, the Lakers gathered for their exit meetings with the coaching staff... and to face the local media one last time. We'll be bringing you the transcripts throughout the week, starting today with Phil Jackson (he's the coach, for those of you just tuning in...).
BK
On the progress of his exit meetings thus far-
"They're holding themselves responsible for so much for the game on Saturday. I have to get them to let go of that and realize the finale of Thursday night's game led to a certain buoyancy to Phoenix's game and a certain aspect of our own game that contributed to that loss. And not to go by that. It's hard to judge seventh games, as I told you guys (after the game). Those things sometimes are steam rollers, and there's nothing you can do. Get out of the way, it's an avalanche, and that's how it was for us. But there are things you can do to prevent that. We weren't able to do that in the first six minutes, and then it got to be the avalanche."
On thinking about what could have been done differently in the series-
"Well, we felt like we could have won, the first four games were really pretty good. They got an offensive rebound and a three point play in the first game, and they got an offensive rebound and a three point play in the sixth game. It gave them the ability to win a couple of games. We took one in game number four in that series. Game number five was difficult, because we had that whole issue that jumped in our face and distracted the team a little bit. We had some things that stood in our way during the series that we just should not have in a normal series. But they learn. And this is a growing experience. I don't in any way believe that this team could have won a championship. We were all the time about getting to the playoffs and making noise in the playoffs. That's been my whole message to these guys, and we did that. We accomplished a goal. So we met a goal, and I'm trying to make sure that they understand that. That we met that goal, and that's the important aspect about this season. They were able to rise to that occasion. What we learn from the experience that we have is what's ultimately the important thing. That this does not happen again to these players when they get into this opportunity or situation. Or to this team."
On taking away the inconsistency of this season going into next-
"We have a core of players that you'd think can understand how to finish and play in games that ultimately can contribute to a success that might be better next year. That's where our improvement level has to be. Where we finish games that we are capable of winning at a higher rate of probability. Given the incredibly difficult experience we had this season with losing close games, if we can increase that by fifty percent it would have made a remarkable difference. We would have been somewhere in the mid-fifty wins. That's the difference that this team needs to go to, to feel confident that they can go through the playoffs and not just get into the playoffs and make noise."
Do you look forward to next season being less of a teaching situation?
"No, I think more than anything else, these players understand that discipline, execution, team play were all brought to bear in critical situations. That's where they have to grow as a team. When you get to the playoffs, it's crossing the t's and dotting the i's basically that really wins the games."
On where they need to improve from a personnel standpoint-
"Well, we have some core ingredients that are pretty good. We need to improve on some areas in defense and speed that everybody's looking to improve on. Everybody wants to improve on their defense and speed, but that's one of the areas we'd like to improve on. We have some big players now which we didn't have a year ago as a basketball club going into (it) that Mitch and I and Dr. Buss, (we) went through and we were able to get some players that we feel like, "Okay, now we've got size that can contribute to our success," and you have to have that. And now it's filling in around the edges there that's going to be really important."
On the Kwame-Mihm dynamic going into next year-
"We're not worried about that at all. We know that both of them have shown their abilities. Whether they relieve each other or or whether they play together is going to be the issue of the season next year, going into the year. But we're very confident that both of them made big strides this season, and we're very pleased with the finish that Kwame was able to have. And Chris gave us 70 terrific games this year, or whatever. He missed the what, the last 12? 15? Not including playoffs... (told he missed 17 games). Wow. He only missed four weeks, and we played 17 games in four weeks in the regular season? Well, he gave us 60, 70 very good games."
On the need for more experience at guard-
"The question is are we good enough at that position, and are we experienced enough at that position. We think that both of them (Smush Parker and Sasha Vujacic) made big strides this year. And they were tested, both of them, in the playoffs. That's the assessment that Mitch and I will be going through in the next week, and then discuss over the next month and a half before the draft. And then we'll we'll work at that this summer as to how to improve."
Given the constraints on the team in terms of the cap, other contract issues, what can be set up as a realistic expectation for next year?
"We don't believe that we have to have a superstar come in here to be able to advance. That's not part of our thinking. Of course, if that was something that jumped out and was available, no team's going to turn that opportunity down. But we know we have enough physical talent. We have enough size and enough expertise to be able to compete in this Western Conference. So it's not about going out and purchasing, or having to round up another star to go into a slot. We showed we could play together as a team and everybody could contribute, and that was important in this playoffs because it gave them confidence to come back for next season."
On next year's realistic championship hopes-
"Usually you have to go through two or three rounds in the playoffs before you jump into championships. You don't go from losing in the first round to next year winning a championship. I haven't seen that happen very often. I can't remember when it has happened, to be honest with you. So we know that that's another process. It's a process that you go through. Look at Dallas. They've been knocking on the door for six years now. Five years. And they're still in a position where they might be able to compete for a championship, but yet nobody's really talking about them in the same breath- even though I am. I think they certainly are a team that's showing that possibility. However, all that being said, we think that the possibility of depth, of having some depth on this team and some experience on this team is going to be a big key."
Did Lamar's second half validate what the organization thought about him when he was brought in?
"Without a doubt, Lamar gave us and gave himself that level of expertise that we were looking for to be a complimentary player. But not even to use that word complimentary. Cooperative, or coworker with Kobe so that Kobe didn't have to go out there alone and carry the load and the brunt of scoring."
Can the playoff strategy used vs. Phoenix be adapted for next season (against everyone), or would it be better to keep with the framework used this year?
"We'll be able to compete in two different ways in that regard. We'll be able to have an inside game because we know what Chris provides for us inside, that's dependable and remarkable. Kwame's going to be able to do some things obviously through the gained confidence he has regardless of size, whether we have big guys out there competing against us or not. But I think the other aspect of it, the mobility that this team showed with Luke starting and the ability for us to use five different players in different modes is going to be a key that this team grows towards. Where we can make switches and guard guys and do things that we want to do defensively in the course of a season without being caught in mismatches or feeling like we're in a deficit position because we have to face speed one night and quickness another night."
Is Mihm better suited than Kwame to play the wing or face up game?
"He's got a better depth of shot. He can shoot an 18 foot jump shot with great consistency. But the other aspect of his game, he's not as mobile perhaps. He's a good athlete, but perhaps not as quick as Kwame. Kwame can guard people from all sizes on that position."
Can they play together next year?
"It wasn't smooth this year at all, but we have a long ways to go before we have to think about that."
On the ingredients to his successful relationship with Kobe this year-
"I think the mutual respect that we have for each other. I admire the competitive nature of his personality and the fact that he prepares himself in such a professional way to compete. And that he has developed his sense of team. All of those things I saw as growth. Last summer we exchanged some ideas and I gave him some books on leadership which may or may not have anything to do with it, but he was very receptive in that territory, and I think made perhaps some of the greatest growth in that area. Not only making incentive performances that inspired his teammates, but also gestures that kept building this team's confidence towards being a team. Working together, sharing some of the things, most critically in the prime spotlight. Being able to share the spotlight and contribute to a team effort were all things that I think (he really) values. And I think he also the fact that he won a scoring championship as a personal best. Obviously for himself it was remarkable, but I think he values winning above that, and he knows that."
On being in contact with Kobe this summer.
"Yeah, there's no doubt that we've had cursory talks over the summer in the past, but they've been really more formal. Come on up and see me type of thing in the office. But this is going to be something different, even though it's going to be a very busy summer for him. The obligations for him are large this summer as far as time and commitment (referring to USA Basketball). But we know the goal and we want to maximize that in the time we're going to be able to spend together in these next couple seasons so that we can have the best performance that we can possibly generate from this team. We worked together really well this year in a lot of the concepts and the ideas and directions that the team had to go into for various games and various periods of time. Like being patient, and even though it was heartbreaking some of the losses we had that were close, to understand that this is what makes teams good, to be resilient under these type of things and not lose faith and hope in each other."
On how this season worked for him health wise-
"Pretty good, actually. The therapy staff is good here. Terrific. It's a brutal occupation, the flying around and traveling and the kind of duress you put your system under because of the nature of the game. But I felt much better than I did the last year I was coaching in 2004."
On his relationship with Kobe. Did it go as smoothly as it appeared from the outside?
"It was remarkable. From Hawaii on, we had nothing but an easy way with each other. I think at first, we were very like, "How's this going to work?" kind of thing, but within a matter of a training camp we felt like this is going to be a really interesting year. He really took to the idea of the offense and where he played in it."
What satisfaction is there as a coach to have reached him in that way?
"It's not only him. It is about Kobe and I and our relationship which obviously has been one that's been tangled and also very wonderful over the last six or seven years. But also a team that got dispirited last year, and they lost their way. And to have numbers of those players back again and have this kind of finish with such optimism going into the summer is a really good satisfaction. These guys had good chemistry together and they hung together, and the fact that they care as much about their final game rather than just blowing it off as well, "yeah, we lost a game we should have won." But their responsibility and their ability to accept their own mistakes and improve upon them is really the key to how they go forward. The accountability that they have to accept, will make that commitment that they have towards this game and this team even better for the next year and the future."
Jon,
No. We can't admit that. At least I can't. Kobe did what he had to do to get the team to the playoffs. There were many occasions during the regular season that he first tried to get the team involved, and then went off himself. The team was not very familiar with the triangle and they did not know where they had to be. Plus, he is not surrounded by the best of shooters, to put it nicely.
JF
Posted by: JF | May 09, 2006 at 05:11 PM
Laron Profit should take number 8 for sure
Posted by: Blind Worshipper | May 09, 2006 at 05:11 PM
I'm not sure if I want to see Mihm traded. I know we could probably get a decent guard for him, but he is also our best offensive option (unless we move LO down there more often, or Kwame mans up and turns into a beast) in the low post. If we had him in this series, I am willing to guarantee that we would have won that series. He would have given us sooooo many easy baskets down low, and would have made all those chip shot lay-ups Kwame missed. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate what Kwame did, but Mihm would have made every one of those lay-ups Kwame missed.
Posted by: Weave-Man | May 09, 2006 at 05:16 PM
Damn, Detroit is handing it to the Cavs. LBJ has 7 points on 3-10 shooting, with 3 boards and 1 assist. Anyone still want him over Kobe? Give me a break. I'll take Kobe any day of the week. At least Kobe doesn't chew on his fingers when he's on the bench.
Posted by: JF | May 09, 2006 at 05:17 PM
Exhelovdvr (sp?)-
I think it's because Mihm is more of a known quantity than Kwame that he has value and can be moved for value (as opposed to a bad contract or question mark, which is probably what Kwame would fetch right now). They need backcourt help in the worst way. If they can get it with the midlevel or their biannual exception, excellent. But it's a very thin market and I don't think the guards that are available will fit in with the Lakers salary structure. They still have a year of wiggle room, at least, and must find out if Kwame is an 82 game a year center. Otherwise, he'll probably have to go. He's got a ton of work to do, and in yesterday's meetings PJ and Mitch expressed how important it is for him to work his ass off this summer- not something he has a rep for doing. But if he can improve to 12-8 (I think 15-10 is too much to ask, though it's better to aim high) with his solid post D he can be a big part of a contending team in the long run. If not, he can be moved. But like I said, they have to know.
And I agree with Weave Man, if they had Mihm vs. Phoenix, it could have been a very, very different outcome. Like I said, I like Mihm, and if they can get what they need and keep him, great. I just think it could be one of their best available options to find help at guard.
BK
Posted by: Brian Kamenetzky | May 09, 2006 at 05:37 PM
I'll take Kobe over Lebron.
The problem when people compare Kobe to others is that it's never an "all things equal" comparison. They may say it is, but I honestly think that if you put switch Kobe with Nash, Kobe with Lebron, Kobe with Wade(!), you're going to have a better team in every aspect. You will see how much better those players play. Impossible to prove I know, but too much is made of the "fit" and this kind of stuff, Kobe is just a good basketball player. Critics try to take away his power by hinting he's only good at this (scoring) or he can't do that (pass), when really he can do it all. It's just easier to pick on him when he's on a weaker team, outside of him, compared to the other teams in the league outside of their star player. Too much is made of statistics, just watch them play, and you can see the other team make the layup where the lakers would miss, or make the jumper where the Lakers would miss.
Posted by: Blind Worshipper | May 09, 2006 at 05:41 PM
2nd round sucks...I heard the clips got cheated in phx..can any one confirm or deny this?
Posted by: bob | May 09, 2006 at 05:52 PM
BK,
Thanks for the conference. I'm so happy with this blog...we still have updates on our team.
Keep up the good work!!!
Posted by: Digtaz | May 09, 2006 at 05:57 PM
Pfunk,
I don't think it's fair to say my mind must be prejudiced for questioning Kobe in any way, shape or form. My opinion may not be informed in that Kobe gave me a direct answer, but I've also spent a fair amount of time around the guy and the dynamic of the team (and not just this year. I've interviewed Mike Penberthy, for God's sake... haha). So this isn't me coming up with ideas out of thin air. Whether you agree with me or not (and you clearly don't), it's not a knee jerk reaction for the sake of ripping.
And either way, I certainly try to be even handed when attempting to examine a player (which is a legit part of my job). I don't think I "spread venom," as you put it. Unless you simply consider anything even remotely negative "venom." But I think that's a little much.
Good debating,
AK
Posted by: Andrew Kamenetzky | May 09, 2006 at 05:58 PM
Michael A,
Welcome to my world, buddy. haha
AK
Posted by: Andrew Kamenetzky | May 09, 2006 at 06:16 PM
Hey Guys! I like all the over analyzing of the firt round loss to the SUNS. But, I think the bottomline is TIM THOMAS made a three point shot in the dying seconds of game 6. If that hadn't gone in we would be playing the clips right now.
Posted by: jiggycerna | May 09, 2006 at 06:30 PM
THANKS TO AK/BK AND THE BLOGGERS:
I want to join those of us on the blog thanking you for your contributions and the great job on the blog. I have enjoyed the intelligent posts, the designed controversies you create by not being just blind homers, and the passionate heart and soul expressed by our great bloggers.
As disappointing and devastating as the last loss was, I am really encouraged by Phil's comments in your interview regarding how the players stood up and took personal responsibility for the loss and how we should expect that to be the impetus to improving for next year. The cup may be seen as half empty to some but I see it as half full and getting fuller.
THANKS TO THE LAKERTRUST
I think we also really have to take our hats off and give props to the Laker TRUST - the Buss's (Jerry, Jim, and Jeannie) and Mitch Kupchak -- for making smart moves, implementing a great strategy, and having the “cajones” to stick to it. We have many pieces to the puzzle right now and with a few good moves, the Lakers will be back.
Look at what we now have to look forward to:
“A FUTURE SO BRIGHT WE NEED SHADES!”
(1) PHIL JACKSON – The BEST coach in the NBA. This guy should have been the COY for the job he did helping bring the Lakers back from the wilderness and within a lucky bounce of getting to the Western Conference Finals. And does anyone think now that Phil will not sign an extension to continue with the Lakers when his current contract is up? I predict three more rings before Phil retires as a Laker. Thank the TRUST for bringing back Phil and Laker basketball.
(2) KOBE BRYANT - The BEST player in the world, who has proven he can inspire and lead his team and who will be just starting his prime years. We have NOT seen the best from Kobe yet. When he is done, he will surpass MJ. I predict multiple MVPs down the road despite the media bias. Thank the TRUST that we aren't stuck with a rapidly deflating Shaquille O'Neal.
(3) LAMAR ODOM - We know now that this is the guy who will help Kobe take us back to the Promised Land. He will make Phil's 20/9/5 goal for next year a reality and finally be recognized as a uniquely great player and an all-star. When Lamar's career is done, he will have become an NBA All-Star and Laker Legend. He will be Kobe’s Co-Star and more valuable than a sidekick as Pippen was to MJ. Thank the TRUST that we got Lamar in the Shaq deal and we didn't trade him for RA or even KJ.
(4) KWAME BROWN – The progress that this guy made this year was beyond all of our greatest expectations (with the exception of Michael T). He is so young and so talented. I am hoping that the sexual assault charges will prove to be without basis and that Kwame will dedicate his summer to improving his game and catching thousands of passes. I have a hunch that Kobe will make sure the kid stays on track and part of the family. I loved Caron but thank the TRUST that they had the vision to trade for Kwame so that we got Lamar and Kwame for Shaq.
(5) ANDREW BYNUM – It is not a secret around the league that this guy has mega-star potential. I fully expect that he will really start to contribute and become part of the rotation next year and move into the starting lineup the following year. He will be the next great LAKER center – unless Kwame beats him there. Thank the TRUST for committing to the future and the long term and for refusing to consider trading Andrew for anyone no matter what.
(6) LUKE WALTON – Here is another example of smart drafting, great coaching, and emerging stardom. Bill Walton was one of the smartest players to never wear Laker purple and gold and it is a pleasure to see his son make up for that. I think Luke will become a Laker Legend and help lead us to many more rings. He has the type of basketball smarts that make his Dad proud. And, even though I lost faith early this year, he has redeemed himself and should be added to the core. Thank the TRUST for drafting him and having faith to stick with him.
(7) CHRIS MIHM – We probably will end up trading him for backcourt help for Kobe and I think the bloggers have a short memory as to how much he improved and how valuable he was to the Lakers this year. The guy can really play and I hope somehow that we keep him. You can never have too many big guys and Chris has real talent and abilities. The key to making a big jump next year is getting him and Kwame on the floor working together. I think he can become a real contributor and our best shooting big man with the range of Vlade. Thank the TRUST for stealing him from the Shamrocks.
(8) BRIAN COOK – A fearless shooter with great range, I expect Brian to continue to be a valuable role player. He may also end up being trade bait for backcourt help, but if not will always be a great threat coming off the bench, especially if he could learn to play a little defense. Thank the TRUST for drafting him.
(9) SASHA VUJACIC – What better evidence of Mitch’s draft prowess or Phil’s coaching ability. Sasha may not be a starting guard but I think he will be a solid part of the rotation and will continue to shoot even better. If this guy learns to drive and draw fouls, he could average double figures off the bench. He may evolve into our John Paxton or Steve Kerr. Thank the TRUST for not giving up on this guy last year or this spring.
(10) SMUSH PARKER – I think Smush has ability but I have always distrusted his attitude. I spent a full year at NYU and watched some awesome basketball in the Cage at West 4th and 6th Ave. The game is surprisingly like the NBA playoffs: Win or Go Home. It’s a game where you cannot have any weak links since losers may not get back on the court for hours. Weak links just do not get a chance to play. I hope Smush comes back and proves me wrong. Thank the TRUST for finding Smush and giving him the chance.
(11) RONNY TURIAFF – It was good to see Ronny get some PT during the playoffs. You have to love his passion for the game. It will be good to see if he can grow and contribute as part of our bright future. Thank the TRUST for the class to pay for his heart operation and stick by the guy even though he might never have played again.
(12) DEVON GEORGE – Devon is gone but not forgotten for his key role during the Shaq/Kobe championships. It was a shame that physical problems kept him from reaching his potential the last few years and we should all wish him well wherever he ends up. Thank the TRUST for making Devon part of the Laker family.
That’s all for now, fellow bloggers. Thanks to you all, especially Michael T., Jon K, Mitch, Keven, Faith, bronxlakerfan, and everyone else who bleeds purple and gold. BLINDED BY THE LIGHT. GO LAKERS!!!!
Posted by: LakerTom | May 09, 2006 at 06:37 PM
Anyone ever thought about getting a decent point guard in the draft who might be able to play defense better than Smush Parker and can actually shoot? Well, guess what！ The answer to this prayer is Dee Brown from Illinois. Think about it, if Dee Brown were to come play in a Laker's uni, the Lakers will have a point guard who can actually score and play D.
Dont know if Dee Brown will get pick by the Lakers but he's a obvious choice for a decent point guard. Winning the Defensive Player of the Year for Big 10 and Player of the Year for Big 10. He's accomplished a lot and a great player I think. Watching his defense and scoring capabilities for Illinois really impressed me. I think that if the Lakers could pick for a good point guard Dee Brown will boost the team's defense and scoring options.
If you ask me, this seems pretty obvious that Dee Brown is a good player but whether or not the Lakers draft him is a question. Hey, AK and BK, can you give me some comments about my opinion?
Posted by: Gui Shi | May 09, 2006 at 06:38 PM
According to Hacksaw this afternoon, Mitch Kupchalk was saying he was very satisfied with the performance of LA Lakers this year and look forward of further improvement of their games next year.
I listed down some statements of PJ giving us a clue on the Lakers in the future:
"improve on defense and speed."
"filling in around the edges that's really important."
"Smush and Sasha made big strides this year, Mitch and I will discuss next week on how to improve furthermore."
"From first round elimination, you cannot expect this team to be ready for Championship next season."
"their responsibility and their ability to accept their own mistakes is really the key to how they go forward."
Based on all these statements, my read is that PJ, Mitch and JB will not make any substantial changes except on the point guard position. The Laker fans will be again taken for a ride for third consecutive year. Forgive me for saying it but this Buss Family is playing CHEAPO, toying around their season ticket holders that there is no need of spending for another Superstar, since everyone can improve! It is crystal clear, their target is '08 when all contracts expire including the "white elephant Brian Grant deal."
I hope I was wrong, maybe Zen is just being diplomatic and gentle to Kwame, Smush and Cook. He wants to raise their trade values to neutralize their luckluster showing especially on defense during the playoffs, which I consider very UNLAKERLIKE.
Gosh, this is where we miss the bargaining strenght of Jerry West in presenting another option whether to his boss, to his coach or other general managers.
Anyway, thanks for getting to the playoffs and giving the SUNS a SCARE, we're happy and will just wait for next year or the next, next year Huh!
PS. Because we improved this year, fans are happy, we'll likewise raise the prices of Laker products. - Dr. Buss
Posted by: Edwin Gueco | May 09, 2006 at 07:25 PM
AK or BK...or both,
What's your opinion of Bynum?
Posted by: nyla | May 09, 2006 at 07:41 PM
"Lamar Odom suggested averages of 20 points, nine rebounds and six or seven assists were realistic for him next season and said he'll work on his standstill shooting and right-hand finishes."
Yeah LO...work on that off hand, off moves, and mid-range and we're S-E-T!
Posted by: Faith | May 09, 2006 at 08:04 PM
I think until Bynum is ready we HAVE to keep Mihm and Kwame. Kwame is not consistent enough and Mihm gets into foul trouble too easily. The only problem with keeping them both is that Kwame needs to play 35+ minutes a game to be effective and I doubt Mihm can play PF.
Would UCLA's Jordan Farmar be worth the risk to draft in the first round this year? I'm not sure he's ready but he looks like he has the skills and heart to be a good PG down the road.
Posted by: rdlee | May 09, 2006 at 08:08 PM
For whatever its worth, Fox Sports Dime Smack had a rumor of Kevin Garnett to the Lakers for Odom, Bynum and Mihm and a couple of draft picks.
Personally, I wouldn't do it. It looks good for now, but I think we should stick with the long range plan. If Kwame doesn't continue to improve, that potential trade could backfire big time. I like the future of our frontcourt (Odom, Bynum, Kwame, Mihm, Turief, Walton), it's our backcourt that makes me nervous. Anyway, by '08 KG will be a free agent and we may be able to get him for nothing.
Posted by: rdlee | May 09, 2006 at 08:34 PM
Mark my words Lamar Odom Will Average
17.4 PPG 9.7RBs 5.5Assist
Posted by: Dedicated | May 09, 2006 at 08:38 PM
Nyla,
I'm pretty high on Bynum. While a lot of work lies ahead, I think his instincts and inherent basketball IQ are good. He's a very bright and nice kid. And from talking with Kareem at length, he's got a great attitude and is anxious to learn. Yes, he's raw and needs to gain strength, but I like that he doesn't seem intimidated by the idea of being overmatched. I wouldn't go so far as to say, "Sky's the limit," but so far, I like what I see a lot.
AK
Posted by: Andrew Kamenetzky | May 09, 2006 at 08:44 PM
Like the idea, Korey. I think Sprewell may be worth the risk if he can come on the cheap. Hopefully he was humbled this past season....I'm sure he'd be better than George, JJ, McKie, D. Green etc. I also like the idea of Penny to play the big point and share the spot w/ Smush.
Posted by: Fish Guy | May 09, 2006 at 08:49 PM
AKM?? What's the M for?
When I went to game 4, I got there plenty early and got to watch some practice. Bynum was shooting threes. I don't think he ever hit the rim. No, he didn't swish all of them. He airballed all of them! Guess he's a true center! He was just messing around. It was after their workout. I think he's going to be great. But I don't ever want to see him shoot a 3 in a game. Ever.
JF
Posted by: JF | May 09, 2006 at 08:57 PM
JF,
It stands for "Man." As in, "da man."
Actually, it's a typo. Thanks for catching it.
AK
Posted by: Andrew Kamenetzky | May 09, 2006 at 09:06 PM
rdlee,
I'd do that trade in a second if I could keep Odom. But, that's not at all possible, we'd be fleecing the TWolves if we were able to get KG w/o giving up Odom. He's not that other 80's superstar we all hold so dear to our hearts. (Isaiah for those who didn't get it).
Posted by: Xodus | May 09, 2006 at 09:18 PM
Phil seems to have missed discussing the future of Devean George with the team. Devean has been very spotty all season long-- inconsistent but shines in some moments. On the defense aspect, he has played subpar.
I would think that the Lakers won't re-sign him and go with a better stopper and better shooter.
Also, is it safe to say that Smush will be coming off the bench next season?
Posted by: R.K. Raquedan | May 09, 2006 at 09:32 PM
Nyla-
I like Bynum as well. I think he has a bright future, but if I had to guess it's at least two years off. I wouldn't expect much of a contribution next year, for sure. Maybe I'll be wrong, who knows? But right now, I'm not expecting more that 5-7 minutes a game at the top end. It's not just that he hasn't played much pro basketball, he hasn't played much basketball period.
What to do with him if a great trade offer comes along is one of the more intriguing questions in Lakerland. The NBA is littered with "can't miss" prospects who did just that. If they can do the equivalent of Brand for Chandler (you hope the kid you're trading ends up as good as the established stud you're getting back) I'd do it. You just don't know in the end what'll happen with him. But that said, I like the kid and think he'll be good. It helps a great deal that his work ethic seems to be fantastic, and he doesn't really seem like a kid who will get caught up in the NBA lifestyle that can derail young players.
BK
Posted by: Brian Kamenetzky | May 09, 2006 at 09:35 PM
I like A Bynum a lot. Looking forward to him becoming whatever he'll become but, realistically, odds are better that will be closer to another Olawakandi than another Kareem. Odds are he'll be serviceable as opposed to a legend. So, if something should happen to come along that looks like the deal for Elton Brand did, I'd pull the trigger. When your super star is in his prime, it's time to win, now.
Posted by: Vman | May 09, 2006 at 10:59 PM
I think Mihm is likely to be gone this summer. He only has one year on his deal, he is probably looking at a backup role and given his reasonable contract, he is tradeable. Plus, he is good enough to draw interest from size-deprived teams. Even though trading him this summer leaves us short next season at center (assuming Bynum is brought along slowly), Mihm probably walks anyway at season's end. Why not use our leverage this summer when it is at its peak?
Posted by: Jman449 | May 09, 2006 at 11:39 PM
i got the answer to all our problems. trade for e. brand, get rid of kwame, cut ur loses with him, he will never be the player we all hope he'll be, we need a solid point (one that knocks down open shoots consistanly)im thinking anthony johnson from indiana. keep sash(ime) he needs to just calm the F____ down when hes out there. guy runnin around like a chicken with his head cut off. get rid of Mimh hes just like kwame with better hands, he cant finish, hes just a boy in the nba. start bynum , the sooner you know what he can do the more benfical to our future. Kupckak youve disappointed so far. From given what we had, the team stepped up. Now you should do the same. I think Magic should be GM. He understand talent more then any present laker management. and as for Kobe, he was the reason why we fans enjoyed it so much and had the whole country to tune in and see what "Kobe did tonight" he was amazing this season. Every Laker game was talked about just to critize Kobe. thats why I love the lakers so much and support Kobe . keep shooting KOB. Laker Nation Vs. The United States Of America. Bring it .
Posted by: armani | May 09, 2006 at 11:44 PM
BK,
How could Bynum get sucked into "the NBA lifestyle?" He couldn't even legally buy cigarettes or porn at the beginning of the season. He will not be able to legally drink until his 4th NBA season. In a lot of ways, he's just a kid. A gigantic, very nice, primed to be the next Shaq in the NBA right of highschool guy, but a kid nonetheless.
Posted by: Benjamin | May 10, 2006 at 02:31 AM
Odom, Mihm and Bynum for KG?
Done. Extend KG's contract to coincide with Kobe's. You want that guy retiring here and tied with Kobe for the rest of his career. Do it right from the get go. You can show great faith by not even waiting for a season. You could have Brian Cook as a starter on that team and still go over .500.
Posted by: Benjamin | May 10, 2006 at 02:34 AM
Haaaaaaa!
Best line of the whole series, "Kobe's a pompous, arrogant individual...I have no respect for the dude".
That was a great series. Previous commenters are right that series will go down in history. Although, they were referring to game 4 I believe...maybe they should have waited until the series was over.
But I guess Laker's fans have just as big of mouths as Kobe does.
Posted by: Suns Fan | May 10, 2006 at 05:26 AM
I would love to see TJ SIMMERS against Kobe in a one on one game.
Simmers is pathetic....how can he call himself a LOCAL sportswriter...he belongs next to Doug Collins.....
Posted by: lakerfaninTX | May 10, 2006 at 06:34 AM
Best advice for Kobe. DON'T READ OR LISTEN TO THE MEDIA ANY MORE! They will criticize you no matter what and ruin the chemistry. Don't give any interviews or any comments either. They are poisonous toward you to the point that they clearly seem to control how you play. Not the coach. Just play your next season media free. You will thank me when you have another three rings when you are done playing.
-- Jackson (NYC)
FROM ESPN.COM, CAN SOMEBODY PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO KOBE? IT IS VERY IMPORTANT, OUR SEASON DEPENDS ON IT.
Posted by: The Troll | May 10, 2006 at 06:59 AM
"Damn, Detroit is handing it to the Cavs. LBJ has 7 points on 3-10 shooting, with 3 boards and 1 assist. Anyone still want him over Kobe? Give me a break. I'll take Kobe any day of the week"
(courtesy of JF)
After you ripped on Lebron, he finished with 30 points, 14 rebounds, 7 assists, shot 8-13 the rest of the way, and brought the Cavs back from a 20-point deficit in the 4th to within 5 (and only missed one shot the entire 4th quarter in putting up 16/5/3). Are you going to take back your criticism of him now?
"no one is going to give you credit because as we saw through the series that the supporting cast couldnt maintain a scoring load over a 7-game series let alone a 82-game season."
The supporting cast wasn't bad on offense in games 5-7. They scored in the high 60s in each game, which, with Kobe in the mid-20s, would have put the lakers in the low to mid 90s, which is what they need to win. Lamar, Kwame, Cook, and Turiaf were great in game 5 and Walton, Lamar, Kwame, and George all played well in game 6. The supporting cast was good enough on offense in both those games. The problem wasn't offense - it was defense, and Kobe (look what Barbosa, Bell, and House did to him) was as responsible for that in games 5-7 as everyone else.
Posted by: Jon | May 10, 2006 at 07:16 AM
I understand that Phil is focused on defense and speed (who isn't?), but I think the Lakers also need a more reliable third scorer. I'm not sure about the various cap calculations, but trading Chris Mihm (and others?) to the Wizards for Antwain Jamison would give the Lakers a proven scorer and rebounder. Jamison isn't a defender, but he is definitely a professional and does a great job in the locker room. As a DC Laker fan, I have to say I've been pleasantly impressed by Jamison.
And thanks to AK & BK for this blog -- a great way to connect with the Laker community.
Posted by: teamn | May 10, 2006 at 08:05 AM
thanks for the Phil Jackson interview. Man I really like listening / reading what he has to say.... So much better than Rudy T. etc...
I hope he sign's for a fourth year !!!
Posted by: tom | May 10, 2006 at 08:33 AM
Balance of Power
Next year the balance of power in the west will most likely continue along the same trend as this year. San Antonio will falter and fade slowly with TIm D's age and agility. Dallas will probably rise with confidence. Phoenix will be there with their speed and firepower although the jury's out on Amare's injury [anyone remember Chris Webber] which may not ever be the same. The Clips will need Sam C to be signed and healthy or there may not be a repeat performance. Minnesota with KG and Starbury? Hopeless. Utah? Tough but not tough enough. Seattle? Same. Golden State? Likewise. Sactown will be solid but broke with all the signings needed to maintain the roster. Denver with a shooter or two could be OK.
Can the Lakers compete with that? Sure, 50 games and make the playoffs again, probably even win a round.
Are there really that many surprises in the NBA when the smoke clears? This year Phoenix surprised enough writers to get Nash another MVP, while Miami amazed with it's inability to win against quality opponents. Dallas moving up a notch and maybe to the finals is a surprise.
It changes like the enviornment. Gradually. The Lakers can't avoid that. We're stuck in the middle of the standings but first on TV for another year. We should be happy with that. Kobe had to play historically great to get us there. Hope he can do it again.
Posted by: Vman | May 10, 2006 at 08:50 AM
Vman why the bynum hating.
the guy is huge ,he likes to learn and is getting tough by the greatest center to ever play the game.(argubly one of the best players)
he vame back at shq he ididnt get intidated by duncan he blocked parker and stackhouse and battier and two in one play on chicago and he scored 16 going 7-7 againts NY.
well he didnt start like a kareem ,chaimberlaine,russel,shaq or hakeem.
well kobe didnt start like MJ look now.
Tmac was a second fiddle to vince.
people develope.
beleive.(again if the guy wasnmt good why would every team want him on the ... deal) keep him now.
and maybe in phils last year we would have an kobe odom bynum kwame (some PG) or walton.
Posted by: purple and gold | May 10, 2006 at 09:51 AM
For whatever Phil said, i don't buy that. He the zen master, 9 rings, and he can't not clear Parker's mind, so Parker can play better. If Phoenix lead 3-1, i have nothing to say, but Lakers lead 3-1, one more game, is that hard to get ? I like Avery Johnson, i hope Lakers can get a coach with strong personality, defensive-mind.
Posted by: nick | May 10, 2006 at 10:25 AM
Um, scoreboard Jon... 90 points isnt enough to beat the Suns and getting 100 would sqquuuueeak out a victory.
I cant believe you are saying the supporting cast scored at a high enough clip in games 5 - 7. How about you start telling me FG% for the supporting cast and you will quickly see my point.
Bad FG% leads to misses which led to Phoenix fastbreak.
In this series our offense was our defense to some degree. That's why Kwame Brown missing 3-footers in the lane killed us. That's why Smush Parker going 7 for 37 or whatever killed us.
Yea, it was the team including Kobe but no doubt the supporting cast you refer shot such a low % we were doomed in games 5 - 7 outside Kobe going for 50 (which is the only one we were close to winning)....
Posted by: Korey | May 10, 2006 at 11:56 AM
William...
I never said that Phil should be anybody's "yes-man". I never said that he should excuse Kobe's shortcomings. All I'm saying is that he should support his own player more. If he honestly feels that Dirk is MVP, what good can he do the Lakers by saying it? And as far as Phil's feelings towards Kobe, I think that Kobe had more to forgive than PJ did. Kobe was not the one who profited by writing a tell-all book? Do you think a book by Kobe Bryant called "2004: My Side" wouldn't sell? Hell, we all know that Phil can spin any position to the media. All I'm pointing out is that he rarely does it to Kobe's benefit. If what you imply is true, and Phil does harbor ill will towards KB, then what was the point of coming back? Phil needs to not only evaluate his team, but himself as well.
Posted by: bronxlakerfan | May 10, 2006 at 01:25 PM
Korey:
26-53
27-50
24-75
Those are the shooting numbers for the supporting cast in games 5-7. They were great in games 5 and 6 - over 50% combined. It was only in game 7 that they dropped off, and that's when Kobe gave up and stopped helping (1 assist?!?). So your complaint about their shooting was completely made up. Good try.
Posted by: Jon | May 10, 2006 at 01:54 PM
Actually, my point exactly was made.
Game 6 was almost won due to who? Kobe's heroics. Here's something numbers dont show:
Nobody except Lamar or Kobe was man enough to shoot in the 4th or put the ball in the basket?
We got scared, so Kobe took over, and made two big buckets to us up 3 with 10 seconds to go.
If you look at those 4th qtr. stats you will see only Kobe and Lamar scored FGs in the 4th.
Then when you look at OT, you will see that Kobe made every FG. I know you watched the game so you know that every1 was just in "I am so scared mode, Kobe save us." Luke Walton misses a chippie, Kwame Brown fumbles a pass, and its game over.
Game 5 wasnt even close and that loss was due to Laker inexperience and immaturity. Gotta go hard or you will lose.
Game 7 when it mattered most, what did the supporting cast do? CHOKE. And thats why we lost. Down 15 to the Suns when Kobe is on fire.
And I wont bother to show you how much of that 24-75 was made AFTER the game was decided and put away.
So there ya go, you proved my point yourself. Since the supporting cast put up a complete dud we lost. And that doesnt get to the root of the issue which was players losing composure and not stepping up. Its not only shooting, but its court spacing, tempo, defense, and rebounding.
If Kobe is going to not shoot 30 times he has to trust his teammates to shoot at the right pace and play differently thus giving up his control of the game for the "greater" good.
Unfortunately, there are no tempo #s I can show you or intangibles but you know as well as I do that it was a team loss. Blame Kobe all you want. Its fine with me. Kobe won it for us game 6 and teammates didnt box out , didnt close out, and we lost. Kobe's subjugation of himself almost got us the win thru 7 games but in the end the supporting cast was not strong enough.
You and I both know that..
Posted by: Korey | May 10, 2006 at 02:27 PM
I think y'all are vastly underestimating Kwame on defense. The Suns are a defensive problem for all big men--watch the Clips' series for a while. But I really had never seen a seven foot player shuffle his feet to keep in front of a point guard before. Maybe KG has done it, and I missed it.
Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | May 10, 2006 at 02:34 PM
Korey - do you remember what you're saying from post to post? The original argument was that the supporting cast couldn't maintain the scoring load over seven games, so it wouldn't work over the regular season. I then showed that they maintained their scoring just fine over the whole series. So then you come in and try to argue that the problem was fg%, not scoring. I show you that fg% was just fine in 6 out of 7 games. So now you argue that the problem isn't scoring, and it's not fg%, it's that they choked in the clutch. So my question for you is...
What the heck does that have to do with the regular season?
If the supporting cast can shoot just fine in their playoff games, don't you think they could have handled it this regular season? If they could shoot a great % with increased responsibility in the playoffs, don't you think they might have been able to shoot that well in the regular season with less pressure (and, for the most part, they were shooting well in the regular season too). So what was Kobe doing taking all those shots? Building their confidence by not passing the ball? Improving their play in the clutch by demanding that he get the rock every time the game was on the line? What the heck do you think happened - they just started playing better by a miracle, and Kobe intuited the right time to finally pass the ball? The oportunity was there all along. He had just failed to take it.
All season long, I told you guys - Kobe's taking too many shots. Kobe isn't shooting a high percentage. Kobe isn't passing enough. Everyone else could be getting open shots. Everyone else is shooting a high percentage. They would win more if Kobe played like a team player.
Suddenly, Kobe plays like a team player. Suddenly, he lets his teammates step up. Suddenly, the Lakers play a ton better. Suddenly, the Lakers are a team that can compete with the Suns.
You guys need to take your heads out of the sand and realize that #8 on the Lakers is not infallible, and that maybe, just maybe, you were wrong on this season. Nash and Lebron rack up MVP votes because they make their teams better. They can carry lesser players and win playoff series. They know when to score, and they know when to pass. When Kobe started to learn that, the Lakers started to actually work as a team. Maybe if he remembers that lesson next year, the Lakers will do better than a #7 seed and a first-round exit, and he'll do better than fifth.
Posted by: Jon | May 10, 2006 at 03:34 PM
Jon--
I don't have the opportunity to post during the day, so you probably will not even read this...
You had a good argument going with Korey...until the last paragraph which pretty much takes all your credibility away.
You said:
"You guys need to take your heads out of the sand and realize that #8 on the Lakers is not infallible, and that maybe, just maybe, you were wrong on this season. Nash and Lebron rack up MVP votes because they make their teams better. They can carry lesser players and win playoff series. They know when to score, and they know when to pass. When Kobe started to learn that, the Lakers started to actually work as a team. Maybe if he remembers that lesson next year, the Lakers will do better than a #7 seed and a first-round exit, and he'll do better than fifth."
Anyone who is A) not a kobe hater; or B) watches the NBA---knows this statement is just stupid. Trying to say Nash and Lebron "can carry lesser players" makes me think you are coming from scenerio A. Lesser players--are you kidding me. I won't waste my time listing the lineups of the Suns and the Cav's, but if you can stand by that statement, I'd like you to break it down for those who are not blind, and justify your satement. If you can make the Lakers lineup without Kobe better than the Suns and Cav's lineup without their stated superstars (Nash and Lebron), than you should get a hold of as many NBA owners as quickly as possible as yo know more than any GM in the NBA...WOW.
I would venture to say there is not many teams besides the Hawks, the Knicks, the Raptors and the Bobcats who have "lesser players" on their rosters.
My point will be proven if and when we have to trade half of our team (including Odom) in order to pick up an above average player.
Posted by: tajluck | May 10, 2006 at 11:17 PM