Report Card Time - AK's Final Grades
As we prepare to shift into it's the off-season, there isn't nearly as much to talk about, plus the Times isn't paying us our full rate while the team's on hiatus, so we're gonna start posting a little less mode, I wanted to add at least one more entry that provides closure of sorts. And few things in life provide closure like a final report card. They pretty much left no ambiguity when it came to summing up how mediocre I did in high school. Anyhoo, grades were once again assessed, along with the usual peanut gallery remarks. And I'm sure BK will chime in with his two cents soon enough.
If you want to reference the first half report card, here it is.
Kwame Brown: Things started clicking more after the switch to center. Kwame's already strong post D was accentuated by increased offensive confidence, culminating in a 12.8 ppg April. I personally enjoyed watching this coincide with his increased confidence dealing with the media. (Before improving, I used to joke with a Lakers P.R. rep that Kwame must tunnel out of Staples, since nobody ever saw him after games.) That said, dude still reeks of "project." Among many things, he rebounds inconsistently, catches like he's wearing oven mitts, and I've never seen a 6'11" player less likely to hit a layup. I also question his basketball I.Q. The off-season work will be crucial. He said it during his exit interview: No mas excuses. I asked Kwame once if he felt any pressure to prove himself worthy of No. 1 overall status. He shook his head, more or less saying, "It is what it is." He just wants to play well. Smart attitude. We'll see what happens.
First Half Grade: C-
Second Half Grade: B
Final Grade: C+
Kobe Bryant: It's borderline impossible to single out one highlight from such an array of sick accomplishments. But for my money, Kobe truly took things to another level during the playoffs. He remained deadly as ever (two clutch shots in Game 4 alone), but instilled confidence in his teammates by lending them unconditional trust and unlimited chances. Knowing that a player of godlike status (on and off the court) believed in them brought out the best in Kobe's supporting cast. The end results weren't quite perfect, but the bigger picture is fantastic. If this was a preview of Kobe's leadership to come, nutty as this may sound, the guy's best years have yet to arrive.
First Half Grade: A
Second Half Grade: A
Final Grade: A
Andrew Bynum: After the All-Star break, Big Baby more or less sported diapers. He played in only 15 games, mostly garbage time (although I'm pretty sure he once secured tacos with a rebound). The pine banishment was understandable, since growing pains become a pain in the ass while chasing a playoff spot. But I like his potential. A lot. The look on Kareem's face while interviewing him about Socks made me think Cap wasn't just blowing smoke about Bynum's work ethic, desire to learn, and instincts. Kid needs to hit the weights, work on finishing, and up his game knowledge in general. Like Kwame, he's a project. But one I feel more confident about.
First Half Grade: B
Second Half Grade: D+/Incomplete
Final Grade: C/Incomplete
Brian Cook: I'll begin with a positive. Save Kobe (or Von Wafer), no Laker waffles less when handed the rock. Cook chucks like he's paid by the catch 'n' shoot. Unfortunately, that basically describes Cook's contract, since it's more or less all he does. That he lost a starting job to an out-of-position Luke Walton doesn't speak well of Cook's D (Luke may be better, but he's no Ben Wallace) or post up game (Luke may be better, but he's no Rasheed Wallace). I held out hope for a stronger second half, but like my hopes for "Manu Girl" to knock on my door, it didn't happen.
First Half Grade: C+
Second Half Grade: D
Final Grade: C-
Devean George: Devean's a nice guy whom I've actively rooted to finally reach his potential since he was a rookie (if for no other reason than to shut up my wise ass friends). I've heard and read enough to support my theory that Devean's past inconsistency was due to a paper-thin confidence. Well, he's now playing with confidence and remains inconsistent as ever. Take the playoffs. He supplied either huge clutch shots or nada. I guess it's just who he is. He certainly doesn't hurt you when he's on the floor, but I doubt he'll ever help as much as he seemed capable.
First Half Grade: C+
Second Half Grade: C-
Final Grade: C
Devin Green: Geez, how to evaluate Green's 15 total minutes of post All-Star Break PT? I could harp on his 0-2 performance in 120 seconds against the Clips on Feb. 24. But you'll naturally counter that I'm ignoring how he recovered on Feb. 28 against Orlando, going 1-2 in 180 seconds. And really, who's to say which performance should count more? All kidding aside, I've heard that the brass likes "the other Dev," and Phil certainly could use a tall guard with decent speed. If I had to bet on which player with "D.G." initials will be back next season, it's this one.
First Half Grade: D/Incomplete
Second Half Grade: F/Incomplete
Final Grade: D-/Incomplete
Jim Jackson: Let's see. The Lakers needed a late addition free agent who can hit an outside shot, provide veteran presence to a young second unit and allow Kobe a little extra rest. I can totally see why JJ never stepped on the court. His acquisition and subsequent DNP-CD parade gets my nod for the season's "biggest head-scratcher" award.
Second Half/Final Grade: D-/Incomplete
Aaron McKie: I'll be blunt. McKie did dookie this season. I understand he was way behind the eight-ball after being injured for so long. But he didn't even represent at the Casino Night poker tourney, where he's more than capable of contributing. Disappointing, indeed.
First Half Grade: F/Incomplete
Second Half Grade: F/Incomplete
Final Grade: F/Incomplete
Stanislav Medvedenko: I already poured out some malt liquor for my boy. I only wish we got to see Slava guard Nash just once during any of those zillion playoff switches gone bad. Potential comedy for the ages.
First Half Grade: F/Incomplete
Second Half Grade: N/A
Final Grade: F/Inc./N/A
Chris Mihm: While his injury did provide untapped insight into Kwame's potential at the 5, it's a shame Mihm spent most of March and April crutching around. Even if you prefer Kwame's post D over Mihm's more polished offense, the Lakers needed some of the latter when it came to pounding the ball inside against Phoenix. Mihm spent the first half of the season as the most consistent source of interior scoring. Think that could have come in handy during Game 7?
First Half Grade: B
Second Half Grade: Incomplete
Final Grade B/Incomplete
Lamar Odom: What a difference a second half makes. LO went from more erratic than Courtney Love on a coke binge to a freakin' Swiss watch, both in production and triangle quarterbacking. During March and April, he put up approximately 17, 9 and 6 (plus back-to-back trip-dubs). Those are borderline All-Star numbers. And he was a beast for most of the playoffs. Yeah, he picked a bad time to crap out in Game 7. But if March-May was more than just an oasis, Kobe and Lamar could very well be built around, should Mitch and Phil commit to that route.
First Half Grade: B
Second Half Grade: A
Final Grade: A-
Smush Parker: He may end up in a rubber room from Games 5 through 7 induced trauma, but Smush actually finished the regular season strong. Yeah, he was physically/mentally worthless down the postseason stretch. But under ideal circumstances, Smush is a second-string PG. 82 games guarding better players (followed by a back-to-back MVP in the playoffs) caught up to him. I'm not sugarcoating things. Smush has a lot to work on, especially defensively. But to judge him as you'd judge Steve Nash because they're both starters is unrealistic. Put it this way: If told in mid-October that Smush would average 11 ppg and almost two steals, would you have been mad? Doubt it.
First Half Grade: B
Second Half Grade: C
Final Grade: C+
Ronny Turiaf: The most entertaining Laker to ever man a sideline, Turiaf wasn't too bad in limited minutes either. He's a turnover waiting to happen, but he also picked up the triangle very quickly. Gee, a four-year-college guy with a high aptitude? Go figure. He also provided great energy and hustle. Were Turiaf a little more polished offensively, he may have had a shot at replacing Cook at the 4. Or stealing the lion's share of Cook's remaining minutes, if nothing else.
First Half Grade: Incomplete
Second Half Grade: B-
Final Grade: Inc./B-
Sasha Vujacic: In the first-half report card, I said that I wasn't sure what to make of Sasha. I've since made up my mind. I don't think he's very good. He has a fantastic looking stroke but mostly misses, a big problem since a) he's supposedly a shooter and b) he's not good taking it to the rack. He's too slow to guard 1's, but not big enough to guard 2's. His oft-championed ability to "annoy" ball handlers is overstated and overrated. For every one possession the skill comes in handy, he gets used the next nine. I will say this: He has a lot of confidence, which I hope he never loses. It's easily his biggest asset.
First Half Grade: C
Second Half Grade: D+
Final Grade: C-
Von Wafer: A legend. So out of control, he makes practice entertaining. I once caught the tail end of an El Segundo session where every vet, B. Shaw and PJ would alternately remind Von to pass the ball on about five straight possessions. That's gold. Yes, him playing meaningful minutes would result in nothing short of Armageddon. But when he's your sixth string shooting guard? Outstanding!
First Half Grade: D/Incomplete
Second Half Grade: F/Incomplete
Final Grade: D-/Incomplete
Luke Walton: I gotta give Billy's Boy some serious props. I had pretty much written the guy off when he suddenly remembered how to play. Being handed the starting four spot came more from Cook not cutting it than PJ having some kind of hunch, but Luuuuuke did a very goooood job, including a few terrific playoff games. Walton also displayed spurts of athleticism that I never dreamed he possessed, especially with the flagrant on Tim Thomas. I had no idea he could get up that high.
First Half Grade: D+
Second Half Grade: B+
Final Grade: C+
—AK








Thanks Professor AK.
Posted by: Michigan's only True Laker fan | May 22, 2006 at 10:04 AM
Very nice analysis.
I appreciate that you didn't go soft and hand Kwame an A for his second half since the majority of the people on this blog will want to do that, highlighting his Wilt-like numbers of 12 and 8 and 0.6 blocks per game.
Posted by: Andrew Z | May 22, 2006 at 10:13 AM
in as much as your results were pretty accurate, they were very hilarious too. the von wafer piece, lol! i think if devin can work on his offense, coupled with some confidence, he could be a good guard for the triangle, atleast he got defense. you can tell the kid can play, he is just not comfortable yet. this summer should prove productive for the lakers' young'ns. another thing i love is, the lakers owning a an nbdl team, were they can nurture players in their system, so when they get invited, they already know what to do.
Posted by: emman | May 22, 2006 at 10:24 AM
I would have to agree about Luke and his timing. "Cookie" wouldn't step out on the pick and roll. At least Luke is willing to jump out and get back to his man.
AK, Luke has some b-ball IQ, which makes it impossible to underestimate him. I love the short/midrange game which no other current Laker has, sans Kobe. The past two years we’ve seen Kobe run his offense or they settle for the 3 point shot. Lamar provides dribble drive skills, however the rest of the Lakers don’t seem willing to take anyone off the dribble or get their own shots. SuperLuke is filling the void of getting the short rebounds from guys like LO, Kwame, Mihm, and actually doing something with them. Not just taking a shot. He can pass in traffic.
With that in mind, I have to upgrade him to a B-. MHO
Posted by: Maleke | May 22, 2006 at 10:27 AM
AK,
how dare you give kwame a grade lower than mihm's, lol! you would have to answer to MICHAEL T! let's wait for mike t. i would be glad if mike t. dissappoints me, by agreeing the assessments were fairly accurate. Ak, you are right on the money with this one.
Posted by: emman | May 22, 2006 at 10:29 AM
You guys really need to switch this blog off soon. Take down the link so I stop wasting my time on here. Offseason is where I usually catch up with my work, if you guys keep this up, I'll be following the lakers in July, damn it. I swear I'll sue if I lose my job, seriously I will.
Having said that, great post...lol. One thing that i've been curious about is Bynum. He seems to be regarded highly even though he hasn't seen much playing time. I know the dude is just 18 but wasn't Dwight Howard producing from day 1. Not sure where Bynums 1st half B came from, probably the same place Ronny's second half B- came from. I love Ronny's attitude but there's nothing in the numbers for both of these guys that suggest they merit more than Ds.
Posted by: Taliq | May 22, 2006 at 10:38 AM
OK AK,
Ain't it funny what a great career a mediocre high school report card can turn into? There you are, hangin' with the Lakes givin' the thumbs up and down to a worldwide audience hi fivin' your choices. How do ya like me now, mom?
Nothing to argue with, although someone will think of something.
I'm concluding that Phil would get an A considering the C average players he had to deal with?
Posted by: Vman | May 22, 2006 at 10:43 AM
AK,
Great job the entire season. I've really enjoyed the blog. Keep up the good work.
Laker Seth
Posted by: Laker Seth | May 22, 2006 at 10:51 AM
taliq wasnt howard 20 on day 1.(1 pick not 10 aged 17 or second round aged 21)
and they are rookies in a PJ team so its the limited time and the potential and they used their limited time in a great way. and they have specially drew lots of potential.
Posted by: purple and gold | May 22, 2006 at 10:53 AM
I can understand where you coming from in regards to Sasha... I know I spent most of the season wondering why he tossed up so many bricks - but he did come through with some great shooting in the playoffs.
Posted by: R. Kimble | May 22, 2006 at 10:58 AM
And I love this blog... thanks for the great entertainment.
Posted by: R. Kimble | May 22, 2006 at 10:59 AM
Taliq,
Dwight Howard is incredible, with amazing amounts of potential and a skill set (and body) that's developed beyond his years. I never put Bynum in the same category as Howard when discussing potential. Howard is an absolutel franchise guy, where Bynum doesn't look like that. I don't think Bynum is one of those "special" players where you know right off the bat how great they are going to be (i.e. Howard, Lebron, KG, Kobe). Those were guys out of high school where you didn't think "project" you thought "superstar given some time". In my mind it's a big difference.
Posted by: Andrew Z | May 22, 2006 at 11:02 AM
I think everyone should know that if a rookie was good enough to get a lot of playing time or start, Phil Jackson would definitely do it rather than sit them because they are rookies. Let's not forget that every team he has coached has been really good and therefore only had late first round draft picks (rookies) which usually don't play much on any good team. Andrew Bynum might be the highest draft pick Phil ever coach and there's a good chance I've played more organized ball than he has.
Posted by: Andrew Z | May 22, 2006 at 11:22 AM
Andrew Z
Yeah, there it is. You know it when you see it. We've been back and forth all year about Kwame and Bynum morphing into "special" but superstars don't become, they are.
It's a struggle for guys to raise their free throw percentage 5 points over a career, becoming great from OK is probably not going to happen. If LO raises his game a couple notches, he's an all star, but he started with "wow 6'10 with ball handling skills, a great first step, long and athletic and can pass".
Systems can change players. They can flourish in one and maybe not the other, but for the most part, the guys you mentioned were no brainer, no questions asked, franchise players even when they weren't. Bynum will get better, and so will the Kwam but the bar for "special" is as high as it gets in this franchise.
Posted by: Vman | May 22, 2006 at 11:31 AM
andren Z
well he didnt play JJ and mickie .
hmm and he dint play all other players. he played D george,mihm,kwame brown,kobe,cook,odom,smush,sasha,Bynum ands turiaf.
so .. not much rotation.
Posted by: purple and gold | May 22, 2006 at 11:38 AM
Vman,
Yeah, my take is if you've been in the league four or more years and you're still developing, you're probably not going to become a franchise guy. I think Odom could be a perenial All-Star, but at this point can we expect him to reach that 20 and 10 level and stay there? Does anyone actually think Kwame can turn into a 15 and 11 guy? Does he have that inside him? I don't think so. There are some guys that are born with that special quality and those are the guys you build a franchise around. Obviously there aren't that many around, only a handful, which is why I am strongly in favor of giving up everyone not named Kobe for KG (a package Minnesota would laugh at by the way), because KG is one of those guys and you never pass up an opportunity to add one to your team. Period.
Posted by: Andrew Z | May 22, 2006 at 11:40 AM
Hey guys, thanks for the nice words. I appreciate it.
Maleke,
I agree, Walton does have a high good hoops I.Q., but during that first half, it just wasn't coming through. He made a lot of silly mistakes and played pretty badly. I was concerned that he might not have the physical tools to back up his mental ones. If the second half of the season is a true indication, he proved me wrong. I talked to Luke a couple times after things started picking up and he admitted that he was way inside his own head, trying much too hard to do too much. Once he stopped overthinking everything and just played, it all started clicking again.
Taliq,
Turiaf's actual play probably merited around a C, but once you factor in that spastic sideline dancing (which I often got to see live), extra credit starts applying. haha. Plus, he actually did have a couple nice playoff games.
AK
Posted by: Andrew Kamenetzky | May 22, 2006 at 11:41 AM
Regardless of the expectation of not even making the playoffs, (but they did and was up 3-1)it hurts to watch the Suns even play another game in the playoffs. Overall, despite of the loss, the Lakers (mainly Kobe) amazed me in that series. To be change their game plan to beat the Suns 3 in a row, that was unexpected. It sure got us all excited though.
Lakers: 1st half: C+: learning process.
2nd Half: B+
Playoffs: A-
Posted by: willn2win | May 22, 2006 at 11:42 AM
andrew Z .
they did mention that they didnt want to play him to soon coz they want to build up his confidence and his tutalege.plus we have 2 centersand a third if needed in turiaf.
and u said players come like superstars and then they make it .
well how about j oneil or arenas or rasheed.did they come whith all star or superstar inscripted on them. i wouldnt say that.
again i say if he wasnt that good they wouldnt bee so happy by him and other teams wouldnt be so intrested and his body he is 18 so he will grow then muscle up and he has exeptianally long arms .
howard is a monster but chanberalin and russel didnt not have that kind of bodies but kwame and B wallace did , hmmm?
Posted by: purple and gold | May 22, 2006 at 11:52 AM
By the way at 11ppg and costing us $790k next year. Smush seems to be our best player in terms of points per millions earned. Daresay he's the best bargain in the entire league, using this metric. I say we up his grade to a B+...lol.
Also here's another grade for the laker team. Comes out to a 'C'...seems consistent with average of AKs grade.
http://nbadraft.net/2006stateofthecaplalakers001.asp
Posted by: Taliq | May 22, 2006 at 11:58 AM
purple and gold,
I thought Phil used a good rotation, about average number of players for a good team.
Rasheed Wallace was a lottery pick, I believe #4 overall, so yes he did come in touted as a future all-star. I agree J O'Neal and Arenas came in with less fan fare, but I don't think any team built around either one as their "franchise" guy will ever win a title. I'm not saying Bynum couldn't develop into an All-Star someday, especially with the lack of true centers in today's game, but I honestly believe that he is not a franchise guy or will ever be considered one of the top players in the league. Just my opinion.
Also, I'm not sure I have read the reports where other teams are so interested in Andrew Bynum, maybe I missed those.
As for body styles, it's tough to say that Wilt Chamberlin wasn't built. Dude was pretty physically impressive. I mentioned Dwight Howard because his body is developed beyond his 20 years but more importantly his coordination and skill are incredible. I think when you see Andrew Bynum you see a kid who is still getting used to his size. He's a bit uncoordinated. But I have to say, for someone who grew a couple inches this year and is 7'1", he's got great footwork and hands, which are a good sign.
My main point I guess is that I like Bynum, I just don't think he's got "franchise" potential.
Posted by: Andrew Z | May 22, 2006 at 12:05 PM
Taliq
Hello, now there's a stat that should have figured into the report card. How good for the money? Big issue. I'd give him a B+ too, but then I'd bench him for a vet that won't disappear.
I'd downgrade the Kwam to C and maybe LO to B+ considering the salary but the rest didn't do enough or make enough to make a difference.
Posted by: Vman | May 22, 2006 at 12:13 PM
AK,
I agree with all grades except Chris Mihms. because of his lack of defence. I would have given him a C+. Also, What was Phil's grade? And why didn't he play Jim Jackson?
Posted by: M&M | May 22, 2006 at 12:14 PM
Strengths: A HUGE physical presence. Andrew is the biggest and strongest high school center to arrive in some time. Bynum is a legit 7 footer with great mobility. Offensively Bynum has a small but solid set of post moves, including a very effective baby hook. He is very good at backing down players into the low post and ending with a slam or short hook…Defensively, Bynum is a load in the paint. Although not a prolific shot blocker, Bynum is adept at altering shots and forcing teams to shoot the outside shot. However, he is yet to face a player his size, so his one on one defense has not been truly tested…With time he should develop into an excellent shot blocker…The thing to remember here is that players with his size and mobility are a rarity.
Weaknesses: Raw is the word. While he has been productive in high school, the NBA is a different world. He will be facing players his size on a regular basis. Offensively, his footwork needs much tooling…he rarely shoots the ball outside of the paint. His size won't allow him to dominate like he did in HS. He could really use a small set jumper or another post move. In addition his passing out of the post is very poor and his understanding of defenses is an area of need...Defensively, he needs to move his feet more and become more active. As a rebounder he needs to learn to get in proper position and not rely on his size and athleticism. Additionally, he must stop picking up silly fouls, especially on the offensive end…Lastly, there have been concerns about his weight and conditioning.
Notes: Bynum is a physical marvel…If he works at his game, he could really become a special player.
this is an articale and if u see the waknesses u will know that the cap talked about them and will solve them.
ps:a couple of us love big baby and i wont rest until most of u will.
Posted by: purple and gold | May 22, 2006 at 12:18 PM
AK,
GRADES: I agree with most of the grades, but I think Devean George and Sasha kind of got the short end of the stick. Both of them are more consistent jump shooters than every Laker except Kobe and Brian Cook. While in the grand scheme of shooters they may not be great, but the Lakers need to get more guys that can shoot on atleast this level to be productive. Kobe and Lamar can only do so much. I'm kind of worried because the writing is on the wall for Devean, he's pretty much gone, but without him we may not have any perimeter shooters left.
ON ANOTHER NOTE: I was kind of puzzled about the Jumaine Jones trade at the beginning of the season. He would fit in with George and Vujacic for outside shooting and his athleticism and rebounding would have helped out against the Suns. The Lakers didn't really get much in return for him either.
Posted by: Rubin | May 22, 2006 at 12:39 PM
that von wafer analysis was just classic stuff. made my day. still laughing at it.
Posted by: jack bauer | May 22, 2006 at 12:47 PM
Rubin,
Considering that Sasha and Devean have the lowest FG% of anyone in the rotation (For a guy often labeled a "pure shooter," Sasha's not even connecting at 35%), I have to disagree with you on that one.
AK
Posted by: Andrew Kamenetzky | May 22, 2006 at 12:52 PM
"Bynum is a physical marvel"
That is an exaggeration. (Unless you are comparing him to the general population.) He doesn't have exceptional physical ability for someone at this leval (including college here) of play. He is still somewhat awkward. If he were a physical marvel that would have shown during his brief moments of playing time. Don't let his one good moment (which caught Shaq by surprise) get blown out of proportion. What he has is potential.
Posted by: exhelodrvr | May 22, 2006 at 12:55 PM
AK,
Very nice assessments of each player, I agree with you on the grades, well except Smush and Sasha, but as you know I like Sasha and dislike Smush very much.
Posted by: lakofan | May 22, 2006 at 12:58 PM
purple and gold (feel like i'm addressing the entire laker nation...lol ),
Using a league start date of Oct 1st
Dwight Howard was 18yrs 10months when he came into the league...he averaged 33mins/12pts/10rbds/1.7blks
in his second year (this one) he averaged 37mins/16pts/13rbds/1.4blk
Bynum in his rookie season
17yrs 11months
8mins/2pts/2rpg/0.5blks
Umm, granted Bynum is a year younger than Howard. But now he's got a year of nba experience under his belt. Do we really expect him to produce the same numbers (next season/season after ) as Howard did in his rookie season. Really I've got nothing against Bynum, just wondering where all the optimism is coming from besides practice. Did he play in the summer leagues, did he have a great outing. Give me something people.
My reaction to all this great talk about bynum can be summed up by this quote from nbadraft.net
http://nbadraft.net/profiles/andrewbynum.asp
Notes: Bynum is a physical marvel…If he works at his game, he could really become a special player. However, this same type of talk was also said of DeSagana Diop
Posted by: Taliq | May 22, 2006 at 12:58 PM
Taliq,
No doubt, in terms of salary to production, Smush is an absolute steal. That may not make him "good enough," in and of itself, but there are guys making way more than him and doing a lot less on the court.
AK
Posted by: Andrew Kamenetzky | May 22, 2006 at 01:00 PM
This article is for all the Steve's and Jon's out there. It just goes to show how hypocritical people are when it comes to the great Kobe Bryant.
Double Standard Now Standard For Kobe And LeBron
Kobe Bryant, in the second half of Game 7 against the Suns, plays passively and is roundly criticized for either quitting or making a statement or both.
LeBron James, in the second half of Game 7 against the Pistons, has an almost identical performance and the closest anyone comes to asking what happened is my colleague Chris Sheridan, relaying to LeBron that Coach Mike Brown suggested he was tired. Which James quickly and firmly denied.
So. If there was ever a blatant demonstration of the double standard when it comes to judging Kobe vs. LeBron -- or just about anybody else -- this is it.
When Kobe took only three second-half shots vs. the Suns, all the questions were directed at him: Why did he do that? What was said at halftime? What was he trying to prove?
If you don't buy that he needed his teammates to trim Phoenix' lead to single digits before he could take over, fine. If you think after his 23-point first half he should've started firing at every opportunity and that that would've somehow inspired his teammates to play the kind of staunch defense they couldn't muster in the first half while getting touches, OK.
But then you have to ask the same questions of James and the Cavaliers.
After all, he had 21 first-half points while taking only four jumpers (missing three) on 10-of-15 shooting and Detroit led by a mere two points. Sure, James took nine shots in the second half, three times more than Kobe. But he made only one and seven of them were jumpers. Moreover, the Pistons didn't do anything more defensively than have Tayshaun Prince guard him rather than Rip Hamilton, but the only reason Hamilton was on him in the first place is that LeBron had tortured Prince earlier in the series.
Now, granted, Cavs coach Brown did Detroit a huge favor by playing Larry Hughes 26 minutes and putting him in the middle of the floor rather than LeBron during that time. Hughes simply couldn't create the chances for himself or his teammates that LeBron could.
Hughes' stat line didn't look bad, but this is all you need to know: He played in three games in this series, all of them losses, two of them blowouts. Cleveland, conversely, won three of the four games he didn't play, all of them going down to the wire.
Meanwhile, having James attack from the wing also allowed the Pistons to corral him more easily by forcing him to the baseline.
Look, I understand why Kobe is guilty until proven innocent and the judge and jury are making goo-goo eyes at LeBron. Kobe has made his share of publicity blunders while the closest LeBron has come to offending anyone was having a suspicously financed chromed-out Hummer in high school. It can be hard to like Kobe, while LeBron makes it easy. I truly get that.
I'm also not here to denigrate James' effort or performance. There's never been anyone in NBA history who has had his combination of size (6-8, 250) and speed (f-f-f-fast enough to turn the corner on anyone), and he has an amazingly mature game for someone 21 years old.
He made his share of tactical blunders and bad decisions in this series, but that's no surprise; I wouldn't expect him to understand the game the way Kobe or Tim Duncan or Steve Nash do. He is going to be a force to be reckoned with for a long time and I can't imagine how amazing he will be once his mental game catches up with his physical talents.
All I'm saying is, that their personalities and Q ratings shouldn't have anything to do with how their performances as NBA players -- nay, superstars -- are judged. And based on how similar their playoff exits were, and how dramatically different they were treated, that's clearly not the case.
Posted by: Tami | May 22, 2006 at 01:02 PM
AK,
So you don't do this out of pure love for the Lakers? hahaha
If you don't get paid you don't write? I thought you were a true Laker fan, hahaha. Just Joking!
Posted by: lakofan | May 22, 2006 at 01:04 PM
AK got it right on McKie. Almost.
F is close but I would definitely downgrade him to F- considering his salary. He's getting mid level? He's the only fringe player that Kupchak mentioned as a keeper?
With all the HOF vets we've got hangin' out, do we really need Aaron to school the kids? If so and if it is mid level, that's 5mil. D Fish gets 6.
A mil luxury tax for Fish is worth every cent. He's not the answer at the point but I'd rather look down the bench and see him than Aaron for the 2nd quarter minutes. All Laker fans in favor of D Fish??? I think it's unanimous.
Posted by: Vman | May 22, 2006 at 01:07 PM
AK,
We definitely need better shooters. Here are some Lakers 3P% averages for the season:
Brian Cook: .429
Lamar Odom: .372
Smush Parker: .366
Kobe Bryant: .347
Sasha Vujacic: .343
Luke Walton: .327
Devean George: .313
Alright. Well, you've definitely made your point about Devean George. The fact that LO and Cook are our top 3P shooters is alarming. Who's getting the rebound? I think Luke can't shoot any better than he shot during the playoffs against smaller guys.
Sasha shoots at a nice 3P% close to Kobe. Smush and Sasha don't play at the same time too often so one has to come off the bench and shoot. But it is nice that neither has to worry about creating other peoples shots.
Posted by: Rubin | May 22, 2006 at 01:08 PM
YOU ALL NEED TO LISTEN TO PURPLE AND GOLD!!!!!!
. you are dead on the money. someone compared bynum to howard, first of all, howard is 21, came in the league as a physical specimen, he still is 6'10, hasn't grown an inch in two years.(he claims he might be a little shorter, cos turkgolu is taller than he is), bynum on the other hand just turned 18, grew an extra inch in less than a year, now 7"1. howard, amare, and lebron are freaks of nature. bynum is your definition of a kid, he is big but not strong. this kid would never be a bust, in 5 years he would be 23yrs. what people don't understand is, once you are a 7 footer, it is hard to be athletic. i'm 6"9, so i know what i'm talking about. the people who talk about him, see him in practice everyday, we don't, so if they say watch out, believe. he is a shot blocker, but not smart enuff yet, as he would accrue fouls from his inexperience. with time, he would be something to reckon with, but i would trade if and only if it would bring in someone to take us to another level, other than that, he is our future. when kobe came in to the league, ofcourse he was captivating, before being drafted he was thought of as a future allstar, not a franchise player(that's why he was traded for divac). give this kid time. look at millicic, he was drafted high, they regarded him a bust in detroit, now he is hot again, and everyone is inquiring about him, and orlando say he is untouchable. only time would tell, we can only assume.
Posted by: emman | May 22, 2006 at 01:11 PM
EXHELODRVR!
i agree with purple, that bynum is a physical marvel. how tall are you? once you 6'9 and above, it is hard to be athletic, you will not know that if are not that tall. most seven footers don't play sports fyi. think about it, how many 7 footers in the league can you call a star, compare that to a 6"6 player. if he was in college, probably come off the bench for some teams, everything right now is based on potentials. if the lakers wanted a ready made player, they would have traded their pick last year. so give the kid a break.
Posted by: emman | May 22, 2006 at 01:19 PM
thanks for the props emman.
talik one thing muist be understood,bynum like kobe came in a team where he was another rookie ,AI the king jordan howard shaq all came as the franchise player when they were rookies.the stats will differ and howard was here last year and now he is 21 so how could he have been 18.plus in his first season kobe had a vary bad average they develop .whith his size and hands bynum at worst is good shot blocker(now he is a good shot blocker)
and at best well whith his size the sky is the limit.and anoher thing about the diop thing well diop wasnt tutored bu Cap didnt have the work ethic and wasnt around players like kobe or coache PJ.
Posted by: purple and gold | May 22, 2006 at 01:25 PM
EXHELODRVR!
i copy pasted the articale to proove a point its an experts opinion not just mine so ask him to give u a break wise boy.
Posted by: purple and gold | May 22, 2006 at 01:30 PM
Very good grades AK. Very reliable and realistic. To be expected from a person such as you. Keep up the good work. Though maybe Kobe could have at least gotten that "+"?
Posted by: arthas (Tom Brady) | May 22, 2006 at 01:31 PM
emman,
Amare Stoudamire, KG, Dwight Howard, Ben Wallace, Magic Johnson, Wilt Chamberlin, Shaquille O'Neal...how many other people do you want me to list over 6'9" that are athletic?
I also believe that saying Bynum is a "physical marvel" is completely exaggerating. He's tall, that's it. I also find it funny that "purple and gold" forgot to leave out the line about being the next Disagana Diop. Must not have copied and pasted the whole article.
Posted by: Andrew Z | May 22, 2006 at 01:36 PM
emman
True. Bynum is a kid. He's also one of the few tradeable assets on the team. Keeping him for the future is a luxury. Kobe's not growing, he's peaking. The rub is in weighing Bynum's upside against Kobe's legs.
It's fun to talk now, but Mitch will do what Mitch said, nothing. Bynum will get a chance to show next year. If he doesn't show well, he may not be valueable trade bait either. He sure will make summer league more interesting.
The Kwam is our Miliicic. If he can earn his lunch money, Baby B will be safe to earn while he learns from the best.
Posted by: Vman | May 22, 2006 at 01:41 PM
Luke just did a radio interview and he said that he hadn't heard what the media was saying about Kobe because he was out of town and turn everything off, but when people started asking him, he could not believe it. He said that anyone who knows Kobe personally knows that Kobe would never quit on his team or on them. That he was outraged by those comments, that Kobe would never do that.
Posted by: lakofan | May 22, 2006 at 01:42 PM
purple and gold,
On another note, I think the Lakers should have picked a more developed player who could have helped right away. Danny Granger comes to mind. Who knows, another athletic swingman on this team and we could be talking about game 7 of the Battle of LA.
I like Bynum, I should make that clear. i think he has great potential, but I don't think he'll ever be a guy we build this team around. he could be an important piece, no doubt, but that's five or six years down the road. That being said, if he could get us a player who could impact our immediate success, I'd pull the trigger on a deal right away. I think these playoffs have shown how wide open this league is right now and one player and a couple bounces can mean a lot.
Posted by: Andrew Z | May 22, 2006 at 01:44 PM
no didnt want to show it i was giving the kid props.
who other than stoudemire is really that atletic .none of them is that atletic.
guys do u just adore KG to much or did the kid hurt u in some way or some how.
he is a big bet but the bigger the bet the bigger the winnings and a lot of guys are praising him so why not the true lakers fan.
Posted by: purple and gold | May 22, 2006 at 01:44 PM
Lamar Odom is over 6'9" and very athletic.
Posted by: Rubin | May 22, 2006 at 01:47 PM
GTG guys but was cheking that draft site and i found boozer as another guy who u would not guessed would be a star and guess wat he is .so pray that he develops rather then find reasons why he doesnt.
AK u need to post the kareem interview again but on a more serious note the frontcourt and brown bynum are very talkked about why not a thread about them.
Posted by: purple and gold | May 22, 2006 at 01:51 PM
Congratulations Jon.
Since you never shut up about how LeBron is great (which he is, no doubt) here in Lakerland, which is Kobe country, just as Miami is D-Wade's crib or how Houston is the land of the Vince Young. Now your name is LeJon James. Get used to it LeJon.
Oh, you hate Kobe? Fine then. Just hate everything here in your home. Hate Reggie Bush. Hate Matt Leinhart. I bet you do hate them in your heart. Lemme also say you love Paris Hilton the whore. Fine by me. You many not have post it here but I do know that you really do. And one last thing LeJon, Kobe here right now is Reggie Bush and LeBron is Vince Young. While I like Vince's all around game and body size, which is just like LeBron is the NBA, I'd rather have the electrifying Reggie Bush, which is Kobe YES Kobe, anyday.
So will the real LeJon James Please Shut UP!? Please Shut Up?! Please Shut up?!
-The Album of The Real Slim Shady.
Posted by: arthas (Tom Brady) | May 22, 2006 at 01:57 PM
purple and gold,
howard came into the league about 11months older than bynum that's a fact. He was 18yrs10months in 2004 october, was 19yrs10months in 2005 october, and will be 20yrs10months in 2006 october. He won't be 21 until this december.
Like I said granted Bynum came into the league a year younger than Howard was in his rookie year. And yes he might later turn into a great player, just curious as to what he's done now to merit the hype. As of October this year, Bynum will be 18yrs11month, which makes him about a month older than Howard was as of that time in his rookie season, plus Bynum has had the benefit of 1yr of nba under his belt. Have we seen anything from Bynum to hope that he can even give us Howard's rookies number.
That's all I'm asking. The more people rave about this kid when he hasn't produced at all. The less they'll look into other options such as the D-League that might benefit him.
And as for Jermaine O Neal and Darko...let's not forget they both got a change of envinroment before producing. i.e. once a team get's used to your ass being on the bench, it most likely will stay there. I don't want Bynum to be a bust and I don't want him to be another teams treasure. I just think too much praise is being heaped on him and yet too little is being asked of him.
My hope is that he gets enough playing time either with the lakers or the d-league team they bought, so he can truly be measured and evaluated. As oppposed to getting a B grade from AK, for what? Kareem having high hopes for his student, Mitch seeing promise in his draft pick? Come on now, what else would you expect Mitch and Kareem to say on their investment.
Posted by: Taliq | May 22, 2006 at 01:58 PM
Most of the laker players would be cut in training camp and should have been. Andrew bynum he is going to be a special player in this league if he had gone to the ncaa this year the lakers would not have gotten this steal. His season highlight was dunking on shaq. Igive him a C because of the a amount ofd action. yes he played well in the minutes but he did not play enough to show me that he had a great rookie year. Look for bynum to back up brown next season and for mihm to back up odom in the power forward position. Andrew needs to work with kobe, kareen, and phil this summer.
Posted by: Aaron Patrzykont | May 22, 2006 at 01:58 PM
Rubin,
Can't believe I forgot about Lamar. The guy can play the point for pete's sake. My bad.
Posted by: Andrew Z | May 22, 2006 at 02:04 PM
andrew Z!!!!!!!!!!!!1
YOU ARE VERY FUNNY, why don't you list from this season alone? what i said is compare with being 6"6, i never said there were no 6"9 athletes,it is hard to be an athlete at 6"9, let alone 7 feet,magic is not your definition of an athlete, he may be highly skilled as a basketball player, but he doesn't run and jump in a way that makes you go, wow! do not confuse being mobile with being athletic. also a 7 footer that is very mobile may be regarded as athletic(b'cos most 7 footer can't move, period), but that doesn't apply to someone that is 6"9, speed and jumping abilities come into play for the latter. for every mobile 7 footer you name, i'll name 5 6"6 athletes,may be even more. just think about what i've said before you argue argue again.
Posted by: emman | May 22, 2006 at 02:05 PM
Emman,
When you call a basketball player a physical marvel, it (should) go without saying that you are comparing him to other basketball players at his general level. Bynum IS NOT a physical marvel when compared to the people he is competing against. At this point, I would call him below average in that sense. He certainly has potential. But potential means nothing at this point in his career until he has shown an ability to begin to realize that potential. There is a huge tendency on this blog for wishful thinking to overtake reality when it comes to evaluating the current talent on the Lakers.
Posted by: exhelodrvr | May 22, 2006 at 02:06 PM
Purple and gold,
"i copy pasted the articale to proove a point its an experts opinion not just mine so ask him to give u a break wise boy."
LOL!!
FIrst of all, if you quote someone it's customary to indicate who you are quoting.
Second, your above line sounds like you don't feel comfortable defending the opinion.
Posted by: exhelodrvr | May 22, 2006 at 02:13 PM
emman,
I was actually responding to the fact you said:
"once you 6'9 and above, it is hard to be athletic"
Granted, it's easier to find more "athletic" 6'6" guys, I do believe that there are the extremely special athletes who have both size (over 6'9") and athleticism (fast and coordinated). I can list many from this year including those I already have, but what I'm saying is that I don't feel Bynum is a "physical marvel" which I believe means he is extraordinary both in size and athletic ability.
"exhelodrvr" said it best when he wrote:
"There is a huge tendency on this blog for wishful thinking to overtake reality when it comes to evaluating the current talent on the Lakers"
In reality Andrew Bynum is a big kid who looks like he has potential to be a solid NBA center, and fortunately is reputed to have a solid work ethic and a good head on his shoulders. Until that comes to any sort of fruition it means poop.
Posted by: Andrew Z | May 22, 2006 at 02:17 PM
Taliq,
I only gave Bynum a B for the first half of the season, when he actually got some minutes. The second half, he got a D+/Inc., since he barely played. It rounded out to a C/Inc. overall. Just to clarify.
And as far as what Mitch and Kareem said, I'm not naive enough to think that they'd publicly trash their highest draft pick in 10 or so years. But I also have heard stuff off the record, too. And people have told me stuff they've heard off the record as well. Plus, I've watched Bynum in practice, shoot around, etc. That all comes into play.
AK
Posted by: Andrew Kamenetzky | May 22, 2006 at 02:18 PM
So...
AK/BK, who WON'T be back next year?
Devin Green?
Von Wafer?
Devean George?
I'd like to hear your opinion.
Posted by: Jon Kavulic | May 22, 2006 at 02:19 PM
lakofan,
Is there a podcast of that interview. Also just to play devil's advocate. Isn't it a little strange that Luke is just hearing about this now. What he went hiking in some remote corner of the world soon as the game was over. And what about kobe's remaining teammates, they sure as hell weren't falling over themselves to go meet the press and adamantly express their support for kobe publically. Jordan may have been hard on his teammates but he was also a very social person, so yeah u'd hear it from him in practice but then you could roll with him into the most exclusive spots/parties. Another clear distinction between Kobe n Jordan, and that's not a knock against kobe, rather it's just another example of how unique his situation is and how he's going to have to do this his own way.
Posted by: Taliq | May 22, 2006 at 02:26 PM
AK,
If you can come out and say. Bynum hasn't gotten minutes but wow from what I've seen in practice...he does so and so as well as lamar and kwame, if not better...hell i even remember it took shaq/kg or some other dude a while to fgure that out...i'm telling you when this kid get's minutes he'll produce. Just feel like i'm being sold fools gold and want to know why i should start bragging at the barber shop that we'll be much better next year or the year after because of Bynum.
Just didn't see enough of this kid this season( including the 1st half, 8mins and 2ppg doesn't say much ) to understand the hype. That's all I'm saying.
Posted by: Taliq | May 22, 2006 at 02:31 PM
AK/BK,
Seriously I'm addicted to the lakers blog. You're becoming like big tobacco, i want to quit but i can't. And it could be seriously detrimental to my health. If I was my boss and I knew how I'd spent my whole day today. I'd fire me immediately. That's a scary thought. Yikes i need help. I hate that i love this blog.
Posted by: Taliq | May 22, 2006 at 02:39 PM
Taliq,
Like everyone, much of where I'm coming is just speculation. Unless you're absolutely on the "inside" (which I'm not), it's more or less impossible for it not to be. I'm impressed by the fact that he's a hard worker, a bright and good kid, has nice instincts, has shown flashes, has a good NBA body, etc. During the first half, I liked what he did against Duncan, Shaq, etc., even in limited minutes, since it wasn't garbage time. That's where it comes from. But in the end, I'm still just making a judgement call that could totally be wrong. It happens.
AK
Posted by: Andrew Kamenetzky | May 22, 2006 at 02:48 PM
exhel and andrew z,
i didn't come up with the term , physical marvel. but if you must know, let us break it down. andrew z said something about potential, that has nothing to do with a physical marvel, it is strictly, you get what you see. which is, at 7"1 and about 280lbs he can marvel you with his size and mobility, it has nothing to do with his basket ball skills.(that is why they say "physical", he is not a basketball marvel yet, but he is already a physical marvel). tell me if that was your brother or son, 18 yrsold, he would not amaze you just looking at him?
Posted by: emman | May 22, 2006 at 02:52 PM
AK,
It took a season, and some change (the expression, not change as in difference or money lol) for us to finally agree on something! Yeah! I'm getting teary-eyed a little, never knew this day would come....lol
However, and this is a little however...However I tend to give more emphasis to the postseason as a "grading curve." I always felt that good players always show up in the postseason, doesn't matter if they're tired, injured, or in the case of Luke, just not that physically gifted. So I guess I'd put more emphasis on Sasha's growth during the playoffs than his debacle during the season. As for Smush, well you know how I feel lol. For me it's kinda like the final, the final is always usually worth more than all the things you did during the year. I also (albeit unfairly) tend to hold injuries over players, as in I'd penalize Mihm, McKie, and Bynum, especially Bynum for being injured at the most inoppurtune time. I know it's completely unfair, and I admit it...so don't jump on me lol...but I guess I was spoiled by Kobe's tendency to play over injury with the exception of 2004 season (but he'd get a lower grade for that season...a B- lol. I still remember that shirt with the padding) and the preparation that one goes through to not be injured (like being in shape, i.e. not Shaq). But an incomplete works.
All in all, I agree :-)
My grade for the whole team? An A-, surprised? I am a laker fan lol...jk. As a whole we did accomplish what we wanted, with a team that are frankly filled with question marks and rookies (in terms of the offense).
Posted by: Faith | May 22, 2006 at 02:54 PM
why is everybody mentioning all the 6"9 athletes to me, like i said there was none.
TaliQ,
you don't have to brag about bynum, all we are saying is wait, nothing else. nobody called him a superstar, so don't call him a bust.
Posted by: emman | May 22, 2006 at 03:02 PM
emman,
Okay, I had to go back and read all the posts to see what the hell we were arguing about. It all started with the Dwight Howard "comparison" to Andrew Bynum and I said Bynum doesn't seem like a franchise guy to me because he lacks that certain special quality which usually comes from a level of skill and athleticism.
However, I agree that the kid is imposing physically, if anything just on sheer size. My main point is that I feel his potential leads him to more of a Zydrunus Illgauskus level center than say Shaq style, where he would dominate people and be considered in the top players in the league. That's all. I hope I am horribly, horribly wrong, and the fact that people say he has a strong work ethic and a good head on his shoulders makes me feel pretty good.
Good discussion, thanks.
Posted by: Andrew Z | May 22, 2006 at 03:03 PM
Andrew Z,
you may be right about him being a big z rather than a shaq, but how do we know? if he was 25yrs, we could have an easier estimate. but this kid hasn't even played yet. he is not used to posting up big players, he even admitted to posting up 6"5 centers in high school, now he would have to change is shots to avoid being blocked, is whole game would have to change too, in high school they played with him as the main option, but now he is just a minor piece, and learning. lakers knew that before he was drafted, that's why pj wasn't so thrilled with that pick (the project). i'm not calling the kid a star yet, but don't write him off just yet.
Posted by: emman | May 22, 2006 at 03:13 PM
andrew Z
i should have thanked you too for the discussion, that's how it's supposed to go. i hate it when people argue with strictly bias, and also take it personal and start insulting eachother. btw , you're welcome.
Posted by: emman | May 22, 2006 at 03:17 PM
Jon K.,
This is pure hypothesis, since I haven't heard anything even remotely concrete. But anyway...
I'd say Devean George is likely gone, unless he's willing to make about half of his last contract. Jim Jackson? Gone. Devin Green? I'll give him 40% odds to come back, depending on what FA guards are out there. Von Wafer? I honestly have no idea, but I wouldn't bet the farm on him in uni next season. And it wouldn't shock me if they did some kind of buy out with McKie.
Need I really break down the chances of Slava's return?
On the flip side, unless he doesn't heal up well, I'd actually be fairly surprised if Laron Profit isn't back. He practically lives at Staples Center, did a nice job before getting hurt, fills a specific need, and from everything I've seen and heard, they like him. He sure seems to like Lakerland, too. Plus, he couldn't possibly cost much.
Hope that helps.
AK
Posted by: Andrew Kamenetzky | May 22, 2006 at 03:21 PM
if bynum can develop to where he can average consistently 15-25 mins a game next season, i would be very happy. if he gets 7 and 5 in about 15 mins, that would be wonderful. may be 10 and 8 in 25+.
Posted by: emman | May 22, 2006 at 03:25 PM
emman,
I by no means wrote Bynum off, I think he has a very bright future. My thing is, that future is a few years off, and my opinion, which is usually worth very little, is that he won't be a franchise-type big man. I could be wrong, the kid has shown some promising attributes, he just doesn't have that certain something special, again, in my opinion.
Of course, I will be the first on the Andrew Bynum bandwagon when he proves me wrong.
Thanks for not referring to me as a dumbass, idiot, or other such terms for expressing my opinion. It's been civil and fun.
Posted by: Andrew Z | May 22, 2006 at 03:31 PM
Emman,
I realize what you meant about "physical marvel" and I don't think that applies to him yet. "Physical marvel" implies, at least to me, an unusual amount of athleticism for someone to have, given their frame. So it will mean something completely different for a 7' center than it would for a 5'8" guard. Spud Webb was a physical marvel. Shaq is a physical marvel, Ilgauskas is not; even though his basketball skills are clearly superior to Shaq's, Shaq's physical advantages clearly outweigh them when comparing the two players.
Posted by: exhelodrvr | May 22, 2006 at 03:35 PM
emman,
I would love to see the kid get more minutes next year. If he doesn't, and neither Mihm or Kwame are traded in the off-season (speculative), I would hope they would send him to the D-League. I don't think it does any good to have him riding the bench, he needs game experience, and even in the D-League the competition is a hell of a lot better than high school.
If Bynum ends up playing and getting 10 and 6 next year Mitch Kupchak will look like a genius.
Posted by: Andrew Z | May 22, 2006 at 03:44 PM
AK,
Didn't Mitch mention having Aaron McKie under contract for next year as a plus because of his presence in the locker room?
I agree, I think he'd be a buyout. Does he get the mid level now? If we buy him out does it count against the cap?
V
Posted by: Vman | May 22, 2006 at 03:50 PM
Vman,
He may have mentioned it and I'm sure McKie is a good presence. But if the situation were presented where they could find another vet who could actually contribute more, I could see them thinking buy out.
AK
Posted by: Andrew Kamenetzky | May 22, 2006 at 03:53 PM
Vman,
Yes, if we buy out Aaron McKie's contract it still counts against the cap, but we have a spot open on the roster. This year we paid Vlade his money but we had a spot on the roster.
Aaron McKie should be as good as gone in my opinion, he was worthless even when he wasn't injured.
Posted by: Andrew Z | May 22, 2006 at 04:00 PM
Prof. AK ! Look at Wafer's grade! My dad's gonna kill me!
Posted by: shaq_hater | May 22, 2006 at 04:04 PM
DID STEVE NASH REALLY DATED ELIZABETH HURLEY, AND GERI HALLIWELL?
what the? that dude is awesome!
Posted by: shaq_hater | May 22, 2006 at 04:05 PM
Faith:
I agree 100% with your point that performance during our run late in the regular season and in the playoffs against the Suns should receive far greater weight than performance during the first half of the season.
AK:
What I am more interested in is not an actual grade for past performance but a projected grade for next year based on progress displayed during the latter part of the season and the playoffs. With that in mind, here are my optimistically (I am a Lakers fan) projected grades for the Laker players that will be in the rotation and the team for next year, assuming no major trades:
1. KOBE BRYANT (Starting Shooting Guard): A+
I think Kobe will take what he learned in the playoffs and really blossom as the team leader. His scoring average will drop but his assists and boards will increase. I also think he will take the lead in making the team better defensively and will really earn his 1st team defense selection. His leadership and resulting enhanced image will finally be recognized by almost everyone. 25/8/6 and his first MVP will show that Kobe finally “gets” it.
2. LAMAR ODOM (Starting Small Forward/Power Forward) A-
With a full year working with Kobe and in the triangle, Lamar will have his best year yet and will put to rest any thoughts of trading him. He will almost average a triple double and will add a mid-range jumper and drives to the hoop with his right hand. He will also demonstrate a much higher basketball IQ and defensive team smarts. 20/10/6 and Co-Team MVP and 3rd team all NBA.
3. KWAME BROWN (Starting Power Forward/Center): B+
I think Kwame will continue to grow more comfortable and develop the increased personal confidence and consistent focus we all are hoping for. I also think Phil will find a way to keep Kwame and Chris on the floor together, whenever possible. I also think Kwame will dramatically improve his short range jump shot and his free-throws. His 1-on-1 low post defense will be the anchor for a greatly improved interior TEAM defense. I also think that the legal case against him will be dismissed. 15/10 and some votes as Most Improved Player.
4. CHRIS MIHM (Starting Center/Power Forward) B+
I think Chris will continue to improve his offense and will become the #3 scorer behind Kobe and Lamar. He will extend his range as a jump shooter and will dominate offensively against many teams. His help defense will become a major component of our improved team defense and he will continue to improve his man defense and reduce his proclivity to get dumb fouls. 15/10 and some votes as Most Improved Player.
5. ANYONE BUT SMUSH (Starting Point Guard): B
This is the big unknown for us. We need a defensive oriented point guard that has quickness and length to bother the other Western Conference point guards defensively and the ability to punish them offensively. Someone like Andre Iguodala of the 76ers. Maybe Devin Greene? Maybe Laron Profit? DEFENSE. DEFENSE. DEFENSE.
6. LUKE WALTON (Backup Small Forward) B+
Luke will continue to improve his shooting and defense and will be a major contributor off the bench giving us another great passer and smart player. He may not have his Dad’s physical skills but he definitely inherited his Dad’s basketball IQ.
7.ANDREW BYNUM (Backup Center): B+
I think Andrew will make major strides and become a regular and contributing part of our frontcourt rotation. He will be a good low post option on offense and a good help shot blocker on defense. He will probably still struggle with foul problems but will clearly show that he has super star potential to become a great center.
8. RONNY TURIAFF (Backup Power Forward): B-
Ronny will also emerge as a force off the bench, adding energy and rebounding at both ends of the court as well as shot blocking and help defense.
9. SASHA VUJACIC (Backup Point Guard): B-
I think Sasha will continue to contribute and will become our best 3-point shooter and pesky defender, especially if he gets help from our frontcourt defense.
10. BRIAN COOK (2nd Backup Power Forward): C+
I think Brian will continue to be our designated 3-point shooter against anyone and will show modest improvement in taking the ball to the hoop on offense and drawing charging fouls on defense.
THE TEAM: A-
50 Wins and #5 seed and Western Conference Finals. Improved defense with reduced points allowed and shooting percentage allowed. Phil Jackson will be among top vote getters for Cach of the Year for taking the Lakers to the NBA Final Four and bringing the next dynasty into view.
Posted by: LakerTom | May 22, 2006 at 04:11 PM
AK, Sasha is too slow and unatheletic? Remember when he annoyed the hell out of Allen Iverson early in the season and in game 1 against Steve Nash? The guy is a great on the ball defenderplus he has the potential to be an awsome 3 point shooter. Sasha is exactly the guy we need: a shooter and defender.
Posted by: Greek dude | May 22, 2006 at 04:28 PM
Andrew Z,
Yeah, I'd pull the plug there if the spot could be filled with a more productive player. Although, if he's making mid level and they insist on staying away from any luxury tax, it might be better to keep him 'cause he at least knows the system.
As I've said, next year I'd consisder a minimal luxury tax with all the money coming off the following year. Anything to move up the timetable in a league that looks ripe for the picking.
Posted by: Vman | May 22, 2006 at 04:43 PM
Lebron has the same problem that Kobe does. He is surrounded by guys who can't play big or smart in the clutch. Cavs go up 3-2, lose next 2 games. LA goes up 3-1, lose next 3 games to Suns. Until Mitch gets the right pieces around #24, he can score 80 a game and won't win a ring. Pistons and Suns prove it is about experience has much as it is talent. The mental aspect makes the difference between winning and losing.
Posted by: 8ball | May 22, 2006 at 04:51 PM
Greek Dude,
Again, this what I'm talking about when I say this gets overstated and overrated. Sasha annoyed AI and Nash on a few possessions. That's it. He didn't guard these guys for starter's minutes. When he starts doing that, or even coming close, I'll retract my statements. Or when he actually shoots 40% on a season, whichever comes first.
AK
Posted by: Andrew Kamenetzky | May 22, 2006 at 04:51 PM
Vman,
I think McKie gets $2.5 this year, but still, I'd go way over the luxury tax if it meant getting the right player. Of course, it's not my money so I can say what I want, but still, I'd do it.
The problem is we can't sign a free agent because we're over the cap, and the only way to trade for a big name is to match contracts and no one wants to trade one of their better players for any of our big contracts. I'm sure we'll spend the $5 million MLE this year and hopefully get a couple pieces that bring something, anything, to the table.
I keep thinking about all the trade and free agent talk and I think what everything ultimately boils down to is whether or not you feel Lamar Odom is the #2 guy that can bring a title to LA. If yes, then you make do with what you have this season and hope guys develop. If no, then you try and trade him for cap relief and look to land someone big in free agency after this season.
I bet you could get a Jalen Rose and draft pick/young talent for LO and at the end of the season have $30 million plus come off the books. There's a few nice FA's after this next season available.
Posted by: Andrew Z | May 22, 2006 at 05:00 PM
Who should we spend our FA money on this year?
Mike James? Monta Ellis? Marcus Banks?
Posted by: hariyahu | May 22, 2006 at 05:02 PM
This shocked me when I read it:
• For the Lakers, the first-round +/- leader was Cook at +28. Last was Kwame Brown at -70, the worst raw number in the entire first round of the playoffs. Still think we should trade Mihm this off-season?
Posted by: mannie | May 22, 2006 at 05:17 PM
Phil Jackson gets a C+. He needs to stop playing his stupid zenmaster head games and teach these guys how to play basketball. Why do teams like the Spurs and Mavericks look so much crisper than the Lakers? Because they have coaches who drill it into their players' heads without pretense that they have to execute on both ends of the court and not give them stupid books to read or show them stupid movie clips. If we can't get some good players we need to develop Bynum so why isn't Kareem on the Lakers bench? When Yao came into the league, there wasn't a day that Patrick Ewing wasn't by his side, whispering into his ear. Phil needs to get with the new era of basketball. Why are we still playing the stupid triangle when we have only 1 guy (Kobe) who can really score in it?
Posted by: lakersin08 | May 22, 2006 at 06:08 PM
i don't think it's fair to criticize phil or the lakers right now. i think they have done a good job already, so let's wait until next seasonn before we start complaining about the the triangle, and what ever.
AK, i won't agree with you that sasha can't play defense, i think he's just not smart enuff yet, with time he would figure it out. atleast he doesn't turn the ball over. his shooting % will get better with his maturity and comfort, see playoffs. the lakers would be a much better team next season, mark my words. even without a trade they would finish nothing lower than 6, and that's due to the divisional standings. they could be better. the only reason we need that extra piece is to win a championship.
Posted by: emman | May 22, 2006 at 06:25 PM
AK,
most of your pick of who is gone such as George and Wafer, i agree with. Especially with Wafer since he shouldn't have been drafted at all when he came out of his sophomore season without really being a star in NCAA. As for Profit, I'd like for him to come back since he filled in very nicely for Kobe and when Profit went down, we had small forwards practically playing the role of shooting guards which some can't simply do. In my opinion, McKie should be bought out and we should sign Kareem Rush, a very good outside threat. We only have very few people who could make jumpers consistently and since Rush knows the system he could play some significant minutes. I don't really know whats going to happen but I would like those two to come the Lakers next season, both are good backups.
For big men we have Kwame, Mihm, and Bynum. If Kwame can have a consistent and great jumper like LO's I would like for him to go back to the 4 so him and Mihm can provide better defense in the lane. If not well Kwame has some more time to learn a jumper while playing the 5. He will need to learn to play the 4 sooner or later cause Bynum will certainly be ready if not next (not this) season then the season after.
Posted by: arthas (Tom Brady) | May 22, 2006 at 06:31 PM
emman i totally agree on Sasha, despite my past criticisms of him. The only I really want him to do is to WORK OUT AND GAIN MASS while learning to drive just like the last game to the lane. And it is not fair to criticize Phil. Lets us this question:
Could another coach really have made this team go in a complete 180 degress after the 2004-2005 season?
lakersin08, the only ones who knew the triangle were Kobe and George. The rest of the guys no nothing of it and even LO struggled in it for a while. If you know what the triangle is, it is very difficult for a while to learn. But when you do, it makes sense alot of times and you simply know it. While the rest of teh NBA has all those flashy run and gun, give it to LeJon James, or even Detriot style (which is a good system still), the triangle helped make champions of MJ and Pippen, and Shaq and Kobe. Why did Kobe score so damn much? Simple. Alot of times people were out of position and did not know what the hell to do. So when your people is out of position and ain't doing anything (for a while the guys were only standing around, not making cuts or setting up picks), and all of them are clogged off, you gotta score. And Kobe did that. Not exactly the best of things, but it for a while got the job done. Since most of the team now knows the triangle, well lets just say they know how to operate better, and get a load of burden off Kobe Bryant.
Posted by: arthas (Tom Brady) | May 22, 2006 at 06:39 PM
the sasha grading is kinda harsh. he didn't play too bad in 2nd half, i'd give him a C+. he's been improving his shot and driving to the basket.
Posted by: melon tea | May 22, 2006 at 06:57 PM
Professor AK,
Good grades but you're a lenient professor. You should have given them all straight D for messing up a 3-1 lead. I've few qualms, Sasha should be higher than Smush and Mihm should be higher than Kwame, but they all deserved a grade of D in the Finals.
Lastly, you should give Phil Jackson a grade of B for resurrecting a dead team. I don't have to tell the grade I will give for Cupcake, just fill in the _____ (blank).
Posted by: Edwin Gueco | May 22, 2006 at 07:30 PM
Sorry to bring back the Bynum thing back but i had to put in my opinion. Bynum is still an undetermined factor in the Laker organization. He has neither failed or been sucessful. He is no Kwame Brown(either good or bad). I think that he will be better than Kwame but u cant compare a guy that plays 5mins to a guy that plays 30mins a game. So the whole Howard thing was a bit too much. If u want to compare you first start with minutes. Everyone was going off on how Lebron James did so much better in his rookie year than Kobe but you must remember taht at the time Kobe came in the Lakers, they were going into the post-season while the cavs didnt have anything to lose because it couldnt get any worse for them. If Bynum does play more minutes next year then we can compare him to his fellow pf/c and other old and new 2nd year players but til then let the guy get in some good minutes before u compare him to guys that are playing 30+mins.
Posted by: Shady | May 22, 2006 at 07:56 PM
LakerTOm,
I wish I had had you for a prof!! You grade on one heck of a curve!
Posted by: exhelodrvr | May 22, 2006 at 08:38 PM
I really cant wait till next season honestly.
I am very intrigued on seeing what kind of backcourt help we get. Do we believe McKie will be healthy this year? Do we keep Jimmy Jackson? Do Sasha/Smush become solid bench contributors rather than questionable starters? If Bobby Jackson or Jason Terry is the answer then we are good here.
Also, what's up with our big men situation. Its crazy, but we have a plethora bodies at our disposal (never woulda thought this when Shaq left). Turiaf, Mihm, Bynum, Odom, and Kwame. Who's going to emerge as the horse out of this combo? We know Mihm & Kwame can give us 12 & 8 but can any give us 16 & 10? I think we will end up keeping all of them this year and next year 1 will be gone. The popular choice now is Mihm but not so fast. Kwame could be gone if he cant get to 16 & 10. I cant see Bynum going anywhere unless we get KG in a packaged deal. Turiaf would be ripe for a package deal if he plays hard all next year. I predict Bynum showing that he is capable of big minutes the year after next by giving us a couple of 20pts games, a couple of 10 reb. games, and a couple of 5 block games this next year. I'm skeptical of Kwame. I dont think you learn hands. The most disconcerting effort was the colossal flop he had in game 7. If he doesnt come up big in clutch moments this next year then he is goooonnne! I wish we could've seen Mihm in the playoffs. It's hard to judge him because of that.
Odom is here to stay. He showed that he has the capacity to get better through a season. He & Kobe work well together and Lamar has the confidence to take the big shot. Odom is what makes me optimistic.
I think we will 50 games next year. But the development of our players will be the biggest story as we find out who is real and who is fake. Who are the people who will really contribute to the next laker title.
Right now the people here for sure are:
Kobe, Odom, Walton (dont laugh! if you know role players you know Walton is a keeper), Bynum (too young, too agile, too much invested in him), Turiaf (Madsen but he can finish!)...
Kwame, Smush, Mihm ... I hope you figure out if you are real or fake because if you dont we will and you will be shipped to Atlanta!!!
Posted by: Korey | May 22, 2006 at 10:05 PM
I know it's sick but the Suns just made the Lakers look GOOD. One defensive rebound away from a win in 6? We don't have to spend the summer hearing about the Clippers. Whew. Hate to admit it but I'm better now.
Go Phoenix, I hate you but you're makin' us look better with every win.
Go ahead, kill Dallas...as long as Detroit takes out Miami. Can't have Riley or Shaq on a podium till the Lake Show puts a couple more banners in the rafters.
I won't be trolling other blogs but it does change the way I feel about the timetable. Tell me you wouldn't have been ready to trade half the roster if the Clips had swept the Suns? Don't bother, I wouldn't believe you.
Having shared that dark side, the Clips had a great year. Brand is a hard workin' definition of what a PF should be. Kaman is tough. This game might have aged Sam a couple extra years.
Posted by: Vman | May 22, 2006 at 11:09 PM
Iffy "and one" for Dirk at the end of reg in that game. 21 ticks with the ball and up by 1 is a big difference from tied. I don't care but I hate when refs get involved if they don't have to with under a minute to go. Dallas was playing for 2, and they got it, play on.
That said, it's a changing of the guard. Terry is probably off the trade block. Doubt Mark C will want to mess with success.
Go Phoenix, make us look good.
Posted by: Vman | May 22, 2006 at 11:17 PM
Just in case you haven't heard, the SUNS once again beat LA...
Posted by: Bing... | May 23, 2006 at 01:00 AM
I guess I have to give the Suns credit. They are winning with their style. Which leads me to my apology to Phil Jackson in regards to my posted rant. He came up with the style to beat the Suns that the Clippers didn't copy exactly and therefore lost. We were probably a healthy Mihm away from kicking that little girl Nash out of the playoffs.
Ok I change Phil's grade to a B. We shall see if they can execute the Triangle.
Posted by: lakersin08 | May 23, 2006 at 01:44 AM
Man, I was sick all day yesterday. Still am. But today I'm able to pick up the computer.
emman,
Funny guy. Although I don't see how you can describe a guy as a more "polished" offensive player when he only averaged 10 points a game, while being fed the ball. Give a guy a "B" for that, that's awfully kind.
mike
Posted by: Michael Teniente | May 23, 2006 at 07:08 AM
I expect the Lakers to keep most of this year's roster intact with the exception of some of the minor pieces as DGeorge, VWafer, DGreen and JJ.
I'm guessing the next year ('07-'08) will be the time of a major overhaul of the roster. I see Kobe, Lamar and Bynum as the only absolute keepers for '07-'08 with a big IF for Walton, Kwame, Mihm and Turief. Our roster for this past season and next reminds me of the mid-late 70's team (Elmore Smith, Brian Winters, Cazzie Russel, Jim Price, Lucius Allen and Kareem)- enough to keep the fans interested but not nearly enough to compete for a championship.
Posted by: rdlee | May 23, 2006 at 08:24 AM