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Talking With: Brian Shaw

Brianshaw_ijj8v4kn In his four years as a Laker, Brian Shaw never averaged more than 5.3 points or 3.2 assists, yet he had a profound effect on the team during their threepeat run.  A steadying influence on the court and a respected presence in the locker room, Phil Jackson leaned on Shaw for crunch time minutes, and was usually rewarded.  He used to be a coach on the floor.  Now he's a Laker assistant and, more than likely, a future NBA head coach.  I had a chance to talk with Shaw Tuesday afternoon at the Lakers practice facility in El Segundo. 

Brian Kamenetzky:  Talk about the process of coaching for you, moving from being a player to being a coach.

Brian Shaw:  The first year I stopped playing, Phil told me I needed to kind of distance myself from the guys a little bit, because it was all the guys I played with, so I could come back and have more of a respect factor from the coaching angle and not just be so buddy, buddy with everybody.  But it was still kind of tough because you still feel like you can play.  The toughest thing is standing up in practice in one spot for two hours and not moving.  I've never had any problems with my back, but now my back is constantly tight just from standing around.  So I want to get out there and actually get into some drills and get moving so that everything kind of loosens up. 

BK:  Do you have to fight that urge?

BS:  Yeah, I do.  And then a lot of times what ends up happening after practice is that some of the young guys will challenge you.  So I end up playing three on three or playing some of the shooting games and then that kind of keeps me connected. 

BK:  What style have you developed as a coach.  Have you been around it long enough to do that?

BS:  I like the triangle offense, but every game that we play, if there's one or two wrinkles out of (our opponent's) offense or defensive scheme, I keep a book with all the different ideas that I like.  Overall, I like pressure defense, I like an aggressive rotating defense, and I like the ball to move on the offense and for everybody to get a touch and feel like they're part of the game.  Being a point guard, for me it's vital to have good guard play, and a point guard that's aware that maybe this guy hasn't touched the ball the last three or four times down the court, so you've got to give him a touch to keep him involved in the game. 

BK: You mentioned the triangle, and I'm sure that comes from Phil and Tex and guys like that.  Who are some of your other inspirations and models in coaching?

BS:  My college coach, Jerry Pimm, as well as Ben Howland who's at UCLA now.  Ben Howland was an assistant with me at UC Santa Barbara.  He's the one who actually recruited me there.  I've been around more so great players, with Bird, McHale, Parish--(interrupted by a beverage-delivering Sasha Vujacic, his punishment for losing a free throw shooting game to Shaw.  "This is what happens when you win," Shaw said). So from the players that I've been around, work ethic and what it takes to make certain players great- like it's not an accident that Bird was as good as he was or that Kobe is as good as he is, because they put in their work.  They dedicate their time, they have a respect for the game and you can see that in how they approach the game.  Coaching wise, I've been under Phil obviously, I played under Larry Brown for half a season.  But just going back to my high school coach who drilled us on fundamentals.  You see so many players now at this level that don't have any fundamentals at all, so I think that's really important. 

I like Phil's brand of doing things.  He allows players to figure things out for themselves and challenges you mentally every single day.  He's not going to baby you, so if you're not mentally tough you're not going to be able to handle the system.  And I like that because it makes you mature and it makes you responsible for your actions out on the floor.

BK:  You talked about the time commitment it takes to be a great player.  Is it larger as a coach? 

BS:  It's definitely more.  It's definitely a time commitment.  If you think about it, if the team has to be in let's say at ten o'clock, the coaches have to come in an hour and a half, two hours before that to get the practice plan ready, to watch film of the game the night before, the adjustments we're going to make and what have you.  Then after everybody leaves, then you go through the practice.  You stay out there, you're doing more work and you're preparing.  And when you go home, you're watching the games that are going on against your upcoming opponents, so it just never stops.  And it's easy to get consumed in it, but you have to be consumed in it in order to be aware of everything that's going on.  Constantly things are changing.  Personnel is changing. 

So that's what's amazing about Phil.  I'm not adverse to putting in time and working, but sometimes it seems like he's not paying attention, but then he'll just pop up and say something and you're like, "Damn, I missed that on the film.  How did he catch that?"  He's just been around it long enough, he's real sharp and seen it enough times that he can pick things out a lot quicker than any of the rest of us can.  I guess that just comes with his experience.

BK:  I remember watching you on TV when you were in Boston, going way back, and you were always described as somebody who would be a great coach someday.  Is that something you thought about doing since you got into the league?

BS:  It is.  Like you said, a lot of people have said that to me over the years.  Actually, Frank Hamblen when I was here, my first or second year here, started encouraging me to come to their coaches meetings, he started giving me copies of the scouting reports, and he was like, "Learn how to do this stuff, because you're going to do this when you're done playing."  And I kind of laughed at it then, but as I started getting towards the end of my playing days, the opportunity presented itself for me to go into it.  But I felt like I had the proper training, the right mentality, the patience.  I feel like I can motivate guys on the floor, whether it's talking a little stuff to them to get them going. 

One game, we played Golden State, the first time we played them up in Oakland this year, I went over to Baron Davis, who was talking to Smush Parker before the game.  I said, "Baron, he was talking all kinds of stuff about you in the locker room about how he doesn't respect your game and he's gonna go at you tonight," because I wanted Smush to be alert and right on top of his game from the very beginning.  And Smush played one of his best games of the year.  But he had to, because once I said that to Baron, I knew Baron was going to go at him.

BK:  Was it true?

BS:  No, he didn't say that at all.  But the first game I played as a rookie was against Detroit and Larry Bird did that to me.  He went over to Isiah (Thomas) and said, "Hey our rookie said he's just gonna post you up.  He doesn't respect your game, that you're overrated."  I didn't know that he said that.  So the whole first quarter, Isiah is just isolating me on the side, just going one on one against me.  And I'd been watching film, and that's not how they normally played.  So in my mind, I'm like, "What's going on?  Why is this guy going at me like he is?"  And I looked over at Larry, and he's just laughing.  During the timeouts he's just cracking up.  So finally at halftime, he told me what he said to Isiah.  So I kind of employ some of the same things and techniques from guys in my playing days, employ some of the same tricks and the same tactics.

BK: It's always been written that when you were a player, that you had a good relationship with Kobe.  That you had his ear, that he would listen to you.  Is that relationship now, as a coach, something you've been able to bring in?  Especially now that his role on the team is different than it was when you were playing?

BS:  I think so.  Our relationship goes back to the year that I went and played in Italy, and I played against his father.  So I knew him when he was nine, ten years old.  And so when I got here, that part of it, I got his attention just from him being familiar with me from years back.  But also, we've had confrontations many a time.  And I think he respects the fact that we want the same thing, but I'm not gonna back down or compromise how I really see things and how I think that they should be.  If I think he's dead wrong, I'm going to tell him.  And he's going to respond because he's an alpha male and that's how he is.  But I'm not going to sugarcoat anything.  I'm going to say what I'm going to say, he's going to say what he's going to say.  And I think he respects that. 

A lot of times because he's on the level that he is, he can say something to guys- and he may be dead wrong- but because he's who he is, they'll just say okay, and tuck their tail and go the other way.  And I think the teams that we had, Robert Horry, Rick Fox, and even Fisher, we were all guys that were role players on the team but he respected us because we weren't going to back down.  We were going to say, "This is the right way to do things.  You're young.  Yes, you're talented, but there's still a right way to play the game, and this is how it needs to be done." 

He's had his clashes with Phil, and with Shaq, and with everybody else, but he respects the guys- (Ron) Harper- who are going to tell him like it is.  That are going to be straight up with him.

BK: Is that something that's especially important now that there are younger guys on the team, to still have guys around who will say, "You're wrong."

BS:  It is, and we don't have any.  I don't think we have one guy on the team who will stand up to him and say, if they were open and he shot the ball with three guys on him, "Hey, pass me the ball."   You should have done this, or you should have done that.  We don't have those types of personalities on this team.  But the same thing that makes Kobe great as a player, it's like a blessing and a curse, or a gift and a curse or whatever you want to call it.  He honestly in his mind feels like he can beat five people by himself.  So he's always in attack mode.  And you want to have that.  You want to have someone that's always in attack mode, and he has that.  And that's what makes him great.  When you're in the foxhole with somebody, you want somebody to have your back that has that type of mentality.

The tough part is balancing it to the point that you can elevate your teammate's level of play and feel comfortable enough where you show them that you have confidence in them that, "Hey, he's open, I'm gonna make the right pass, he's gonna take the right shot, and it's gonna go in.  If it doesn't we're in position to rebound."  And he doesn't always do that.   So you have to take the bad with the good.  It's the same thing that makes him great, but at the same time it's the same thing that makes people say that he's selfish.  But as a two guard in this league- the point guard is going to be unselfish, he's going to run the team- the two guard you need to be kind of greedy and selfish because you need him to score, and that's what he is, in attack mode, and he always needs to stay in that because he's probably the only guy on our team that can actually go and get his points and go and get shots.  Everybody else needs a little bit of assistance.

BK:  Is he getting better at it?

BS:  He is.  He is, actually.  And what he normally does is at the beginning of games he will come out and be a little bit more passive and move the ball around.  But if we start getting in a hole, in a double digit deficit, then that's when he says, "Okay, now I've got to just go ahead and do what I've got to do." 

BK:  All bets are off.

BS:  So you know, he gives everybody a chance.  I remember a game in Boston, I think it was 2002, 2001, I can't remember the season.  Shaq was out, and Kobe shot 17-47 from the field.  We were winning the game by a lot early on, and we ended up losing by a lot.  So after the game reporters asked him, "Did you feel like you needed to take that volume of shots because Shaq was out of the lineup?"  And he said, "No, I felt like I needed to take that amount of shots because the guys on my team weren't hitting shots."  So then somebody said that if you look at the film, there were a lot of guys open in a lot of situations where you shot the ball.  And he said "I still feel like with three or four people on me, I have a better chance of making it than one of my teammates that's wide open."  And he said it with a straight face, and it hurt some of the feelings of some of the guys on the team.  But I couldn't be mad at that because that's really, really how he feels. 

BK:  And if you take that away from him, he's not the same guy.

BS:  Right.  That's what makes him great.  You can be down 18 with a minute left in the game, and he still feels like we have a chance.  "I can win this game."   So that's why a lot of times, even at the end of games Phil has him in the game.  If we're getting blown out it might be the four last guys on the bench and Kobe's still in the game because he's still going to play it out until the very end.  Until the last second clicks off the clock. 

BK:  I'll see you, after almost every practice it seems, drilling and shooting with Sasha or Smush.  Can you talk a little about their development as young guards in this league? 

BS:  It's tough, because especially being here under Phil, and the things that I talked about earlier, he's not gonna baby you.  And I don't think at the beginning of the season or even going back to this summer, I don't think anybody really expected for Smush Parker to be the starting point guard for the Lakers this year, or for Sasha to be sharing the minutes with him as he is.  Both of them have come a long way from the beginning of the season.  They still have a long way to go.  But I think Smush has done very well.  He's matched up against some of the really good guards in this league and showed that he belongs, and that there's a place for him. 

I challenge them constantly, because I don't want them to get comfortable.  I want Smush to stay hungry.  He came into the league early out of Fordham, went down to the developmental league, and now he's back.  And sometimes he has a tendency, and even Sasha, if they have a good game and we win or go on a little streak, to stick their chests out and be like, "Okay, I'm here now," and not give it what they need to give in practice.  So I want them to always stay sharp, and always work as hard as they can.  I'm a little bit- I shouldn't say a little bit, I'm a lot harsher on the two of them than anybody else on the team because they play the same position I played.  And you have to be an extension of what the coaches want done out there on the floor. 

And with them both being young and being inexperienced, it's tough for them when Phil calls something on the court and they're supposed to run it, but Kobe's on the other side going "Give me the ball!" and they have to make that decision.  Do I give it to Kobe?  Do I not give it to him and have him yelling at me, or do I run what the coaches are telling me to run?

BK:  You've got Kobe yelling at you or Phil yelling at you.

BS:  And usually it comes down to, if they're farther away from Phil, then they're going to do what Kobe says.  But they have to get to the level where they have the respect of the guys on the team to the point where when they come down to do something, than the guys are going to follow their lead.  That's what they're supposed to do.  But like I said, they're both young, they're both inexperienced, but they've both come a long way.  And offensively, I think they both get it.  Sasha has a unique ability to irritate the hell out of other guards and get under their skin.  Which is good.  Last year, he was the worst defensive player we had on the team, and now he's actually one of the better defensive players.  He's always up pressuring up the floor, and like I said, from Bibby to Claxton the other night (Sunday's win vs. New Orleans), whoever we play he irritates the hell out of other guards, so that works in our favor. 

I just want them to get to a level of consistency where night in and night out we know we're going to get ten points and five assists and three rebounds from Smush, and we're going to get six points and whatever it's going to be (from Sasha).  Not fluctuate to the point where some games Smush will have 20, and the next night turn around and only have two.  Just a level of consistency so we can count on him. 

BK:  What do you think will mean more to you?  Your first ring as a player, or as a head coach? 

BS:  Probably as a coach, if that ever happened.  Because as a coach, you're responsible for the whole- as a player, you're just a part of what's going on.  And as a coach, everything that happens is a reflection of you.  So if your guys go out and execute, they play good defense, they play together, than you're doing something right.  If they don't, then there's something missing.  So with all the time that you put in as a coach, I think it will mean more because it's more satisfying because of the fact you know that, that thing that we talked about earlier, that commitment to time, it's so demanding that I'd have to say it'd probably be coaching. 

(photo by Lori Shepler/LAT)

 
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Again, you guys deserve the Pulitzer for Blogging, which I just created.

Quick note: I THINK you meant

BK: You've got Phil yelling at you or Kobe yelling at you.

not

BK: You've got Kobe yelling at you or Kobe yelling at you.

Unless I'm missing something.

Thanks, guys!

That was one of the best interviews I have ever read. The questions were posed well and the responses were candid and honest.

Thank you.

It was interesting to hear B. Shaw's take on Kobe. From a guy who played point most of the time he played ball and found the most joy in the good pass, it was a good look into the mind of someone who thinks so differently. Very cool.

Also, props to the UCSB reference, Go Gauchos!

B. Shaw is the greatest player in UCSB history!!!

Forgot to mention that I found it interesting that this team lacks someone who would stand up to Kobe. This fact was mentioned before in this blog, and it seemed B.Shaw found that dynamic as something that led to the Lakers greatness during the three-peat. I don't know if it's lack of veterans or what, but there have been times where someone should have stood up to Kobe and told him his play was out of line. It doesn't happen often, but that bit of respect between teammates is necessary and it will be great to see when it develops.

Great interview! And great insight on the fact that no one else on the team will stand up to Kobe. That is a role that could be filled by someone like McKie (had he not been injured) or Jackson (had he been here longer). Lamar does not seem to have that type of personality; too laid back. Devean? Who knows, with him ... The others are too young/inexperienced at this point.

BK,

You and your brother put together fantastic interviews. Great job, again.

A great thing about the K Brothers' interviews is that the interviewed seems rather comfortable.

Maybe it has something to do with the K Brothers' mantra "We don't have an agenda" or something.

Great interview. Nice to hear from Shaw again, he's one of those guys who you don't appreciate much until they're gone.

Andrew Z,

I meant to comment on that as well, it probably takes a lot to step up to a guy who not only is a 3-time champ, but a dominant personality. You've got to gain that respect before you can say something like "Cool it Kobe, let's play some team ball." I think Lamar's got to become the first guy to step up to Kobe. If he and Kobe are to establish a viable two-man game and partnership there has to be a level of mutual respect and partnership.

I hate making Jordan comparisons to these Lakers but they are often times fitting. We've all read that Jordan would verbally abuse all of his teammates as a way to motivate them, well all but his equal partner Scottie Pippen. That's what Kobe and Lamar need to develop (which I think they are slowly but surely). Their needs to be a level of respect where Lamar is not just accountable to Kobe for his actions, but Kobe is accountable to Lamar as well.

Most of the posts on this blog are juvenile, pathetic and (largely) senseless, which is a large part of why this is my favorite blog. However, great interviews like this one with Shaw really seal the deal and put the icing on the cake. Thanks BK!

Xodus,

I think Pippen didn't take the crap from Jordan because he thought that he was as good. Could you imagine if Lamar had that kind of self-confidence? With his talent we'd be talking about trading Kobe and having a LO-KG duo.

Brian Shaw is a really sharp coaching assistant. A lot of coaches who are former players sometimes get to chummy with the players and forget to emphasize the basic fundamentals of the game concept.

It is interesting to hear about his work with Smush and Sasha. In the games, it really does pay dividends. I guess Smush would like to score maybe 20 pts., etc., but within the triangle offense 10+ points, 5 rebounds 3 assists on a regular basis with some lock down defense can help the Lakers go a long way.

Good stuff.

Andrew Z...hahah, that would indeed be funny if Lamar suddenly became a "Alpha male" instead of backing him up like in all those post-game interviews. Could you imagine Lamar and Kobe staring each other down like Shaq used to do.

Artest recently said he's in the same category as Tim Duncan and Kobe Bryant. Obviously, he and Kobe couldn't co-exist on the same team.

That's actually one of the things I like about Lamar and Smush...they're not here to prove they are the best in the world. They're there to win games quietly and effectively with genuine modesty when they do have great nights.

This interview serves as further evidence of my current theory that it shouldn't be "love Kobe or hate him". It should be "love Kobe and pray that he keeps his head outside of his ass". At least until he fulfills the great promise of all that potential.

Good job BK, another insight to the team we love so much.

It's interesting what he said about keeping guys hungry. I sometimes get the feeling that Smush gets into his "I'm here" mode and forgets to be hungry.

Shaw is one of the most respected players there is, and now a coach as well. It's interesting that he probably got the job so soon (as in not year after he coached college or something) cause of his relationship with Kobe. I wonder how Phil feels about Shaw as an assistant since we've all heard that Phil wants to be the only voice in his players' ears.

On a sidenote, I wished BK'd had asked why exactly Sasha's practice shooting prowress has not translated into game shooting consistency.

And oops, I went off-topic laughing about Odom staring down Kobe.

But yes, that was indeed one of the better Laker interviews I've read in awhile. Thanks for that one K-brothas

Andrew Z,
lol Well I don't know about trading KB8. But I do think that if LO were that confident the Lakers would be a serious contender.

I don't think it's the responsibility of the players to stand up to Kobe. Okay there have been a few times when other players were wide open in the final seconds of the game. But the play is called by the coaching staff. What's there to complain from the players. The coaching staff called that play in the huddle. Not Kobe or other players fault.

It would have been nice to hear what B Shaw thinks this team is missing in order to be an elite team. Is it time together? Another player? Different system?

I also think he's the next head coach of this team and Phil will have some executive position with the team.

I seriously don't remember Kobe taking 47 shots in one game, that's nuts!!

Xodus,

Seriously. What if LO wakes up tomorrow and says "Hell, I'm 6' 10" with skills, I should be a WAY bigger bad ass...it's on!" Dude would be unstoppable.

Along those lines, where do you think the Kobe-LO duo ranks in regards to best 1-2 punches in the NBA? I know this is a Laker Blog with Laker fans, but try to be objective. I'm having a tough time thinking of many that are better, at least right now. You have Shaq-Wade, McGrady-Yao (when healthy), Nash-Marion, Kidd-Carter, Duncan-Parker, but I don't know if any of those are better than Kobe-LO. The thing is, these days you need at least THREE guns to win a title. That's why the Spurs and Pistons are the teams to beat. Hopefully Kwame can become the third piece and we can run things.

Andrew Z,
I never thought B.Shaw would be the next Laker coach but it's possible. The Lakers generally go after marquee names being in Hollywood and all, but I think Shaw could work, the fans love him. I'd like to see Kurt Rambis get another shot though, the mediocrity of his first stint as a Laker coach was not his fault.

As far as one-two punches I think that Kobe and Lamar have the potential to be the top combo in the league. When Lamar and Kobe are in sync it's definitely a thing of beauty. I think that the horrible Sacramento loss where the Lakers blew a 5 point lead set them both back as well as the whole team. Remember Kobe's drive to the basket and kick to a wide open Lamr three that was great. If only LO hadn't blown it with the O-foul on the next play, I think that may have shaken KB8's confidence in him.

Right now I think LO and Kobe rank below all the duos you mentioned with the exception of Mcgrady-Yao because they still have yet to develop the synergy they need to be great.

I think Kwame may very well be that third guy we've been clamoring for. I wrote a post about this yesterday, we've been looking for out third option and he may have been devloping right in front us, while we were to busy calling him out twice a week. Kwame may be (here comes yet another Bulls reference)the Horace Grant type of guy that the Lakers need. With expectations now lowered I think he can rid himself of the "bust" moniker.

Andrew

I think Rashard & Ray Allen deserve some mention in the 1-2 punches also. But overall, it's hard to pick the best one. Early in the season, it would have been McGrady/Yao (when healthy). Now I'd give it to Kobe/LO (if LO keeps playing like this)

But overall you're right, there needs to be that solid 3rd option unless you're talking (Shaq/Kobe '01) or (Jordan/Pippen '90s)

If Odom had that "I'm a bad-ass" mentality instead of "skinny man syndrome", the Lakers would be dominating the league right now.

Great interview, great guy.

Guys like Shaw and Harper and Horry and Fox, canny vets who could some off the bench and right the ship, who stood up to Kobe whne he was wrong, they ar eth missing ingredient on this squad.

Of course they would all start on this team.

Speaking of Fox, I think he turned in his career a little too early. What a shame, the guy had character and damn that traitor Big Shot Rob. Lakers could use him right about now.

THE K BROTHERS!!!!!!!!1

great post, i loved it.
something i know for sure is, you can't talk back if you aren't producing. if lamar had been consistent the whole season, he can tell kobe what he really feels. please, don't start this lamar could ask for a kobe trade, i know it's a joke but, that would only lead to a lamar's trade. i played div 1 college ball, and the only players that could open their mouth were the ones that were consistent, or sometimes the ones who were hot that day. it's like kwame complaining about not getting enuff touches, say three weeks back, he would have been asked what he did with the ones he got before. but now he can say, hey i was open under the basket, and they would listen(hoping he keeps this performance up). lamar has been shooting great from the three point line of recent, you don't hear pj complaining about that anymore. basically what i'm saying is, you need credibility to talk.

Great interview. That's an insight into Kobe that we can trust %100.
That's why we need Phil and B Shaw. Obviously Kobe needs to balance the Mamba and team leader roles. When he gets out of balance somebody he'll listen to needs to speak up. I think that's best done by a coach. But as we do better, guys will step up with the confidence that comes from winning.

Good job BK, we got an inside information of what's going on with the Lakers during their practice or at play. The Laker blogs were fairly accurate with the observations with the Laker players. And yet, what we see are body languages during playing time and media interviews. I like the humility of Brian Shaw, he never mentioned that he contributed a lot in the transformation of Kwame. He and Kurt challenged Kwame to make those pivot shots by playing hard with him during practice & how to use his body to avoid being blocked. They drilled him in catching the ball so now we see some progress from what used to his weakness. With regards to Kobe's greatness, I think half of the Lakers' victories were attributed to Kobe's pouring of points while the other half of Lakers' losses, maybe, Kobe has to do what he has to do, take the Lakers game by himself while the other four are role players.

I wonder why I've never seen Brian stepping up to Kobe (or phil for that matter) during a time out? He spoke as if he could, he spoke as if there were times somebody should have....WHY DIDN'T HE??

On BShaw as head coach:
Kobe has always hinted that he'd like to see either Byron Scott or Brian Shaw as his head coach someday. With Scott seeming ensconced in NO/OK, Brian Shaw may get a shot in 2009. Rambis is also around, but I'm not sure Kobe has the same affection for him.

On standing up to Kobe:
I think this is one of the reasons that Aaron McKie's injury has hurt the Lakers. McKie was one of the old Philly homeboys that Kobe looked up to when he was growing up. I think he could have stood up to Kobe (after all, he handled playing with AI for all those years).

it can't be good for this team for shaw to start taking locker room issues into the public arena. i know he's "keeping it real" and all, but come on. keeping things professional and personal are what is going to keep kobe and the team tight, not forcing it through public pressure and humiliation. i just don't think, personally, that coaches of any kind assistant or otherwise, should be going to the press of any kind, blog or otherwise, with comments dealing with the psychological comings and goings of the team. kobe is gonna grow up. he's learning alot this year and last, and i think he Knows now (with a capital K) deep down that he can't actually go 5 on 1. it makes for good ads and sells products, but he knows that down the stretch what needs to be done. once he starts to tire out a little and age, that's when he's going to be scary as a team player. i'm guessing there will be a window of about 5 years between him slowing down and becoming no good when he's actually going to be his best. let's hope that 5 years starts next year.

“Lakers will lose to Phoenix 4-0!
No more stupid comments about that topic.
L.a. Will not beat an ELITE OFFENSIVE Team like Phoenix
Stop being stupid and saying L.A.'s going to win this series.
They have no shot, no chance Period
The Lakers will not make it through the first round. Let's just focus on right now not the playoffs. Because the playoffs isn't the promise land for the Lakers anymore.
What will they get out of the playoffs?
1 Answer= Experience.
That is all they will achieve this year.”

Come on guys,

“No more stupid comments about that topic”
if you choose to think that is an insult. Then I have nothing to say. Because, that is not an insult. Those are just words
I said this because the comments here in the earlier posts were extremely irrational and ignorant and I was a little tired of reading them

I mean some of you actually posted “The Lakers will sweep Phoenix.” Or “ The Lakers will win the series” something like that…

That’s just wrong. This team has a chance to win a championship contending with the Mavs, Pistons, Spurs… And we’re saying the Lakers could defeat them. I apologize for being a little out of control because of what I wrote earlier. I apologize but I will not take my words back. That is what I truly believe will occur 4-0. Why? Because the playoffs for a young team like the Lakers (First year in playoffs) is about experience. They will soon learn how to win in the playoffs but not now, “It’s a process” -Kobe

Now now people, calm down.

I'm not being a so-called "hater". That's totally not me. I'm just being direct and expressing my opinion. How many times has a 7th seeded team eliminated a 2nd seeded team in the playoffs?
Search that up for me.

Phil even said that this year is just about getting back respectable form and it's about getting experience for this young ball club.

And the post season is just the best way to do so.

I do apologize for being irrational myself. Again, I got a little out of control. My fault.

But I won’t go back on my words.

Phoenix 4-0 on Lakers

Then again I really hope the Lakers win 1 or 2 games, but it’s not likely that they will

If they do though, you guys can bash me all you want.
If the series ends up 4-2 or 4-1 or a miracle occurs when the lakers win the series

YOU COULD BASH ME ALL YOU WANT.
But for now, that is my opinion and I won’t go back on it Period

This year= Experience. That’s all.

Bonzoa,

None of this stuff in the interview is secret stuff about Kobe or any of the other players. B. Shaw is just giving it new flavor from his point of view. I don't see anything in the interview that he shouldn't have mentioned in public.

Great interview!

BShaw confirmed my opinion on Kobe's attitude. I don't think he is "selfish". He is stubborn, however. He also seems to be the type who learns by making mistakes and figuring it out himself rather than simply taking advice.

I think Kobe will continue to get better in this department.

"Lakers in 4, easy."
-Evan

I mean what am I suppose to say.

Playing Denver. I totally agree they will have a shot to win the series.
Since Memphis lost tonight

they are 41-31
Lakers now currently

38-34

3 games behind Memphis, they could still get that 6th spot.

I think we have been focusing on the wrong things the past weeks. Fans are focusing on Phoenix already, when we should be focusing on how to improve this record and getting that 6th spot. The Lakers can definitely do it since all the games are almost at Staples.

get off the sweep thing Keven. If it happens you'll be right and you'll make all of us who don't think the Lakers will be swept look like fools.

Brandon -

i understand your point, but i'm trying to say that none of the Coaching Staff or anyone within the laker organization should be talking. that's all. you and i and brian and plashke or bill walton for all i care could talk about it. i just don't think it's great to be coming from within. that's all. keep things private, do business, keep work at work.

That was the best interview i have ever read in my life.
Thank you!

one of the best interviews i have ever read, flat out had me wishing it wouldn't end, good job...

Go Lakers...

Outstanding interview. I loved the part about how the young guards will obey Kobe or Phil depending on who's closer.

BK,

Great interview for sure.

mike

I don't think there's anything wrong with what Brian said about Kobe, on the contrary I thought he did it for people to understand how Kobe is, remember he has known Kobe since he was a child and also for people to understand that he doesn't mind if someone stands up to him, in fact he likes the challenge.

It was a great interview, congrats BK and thank you.

I think Brian will be the Lakers next coach. Many people have said that Phil is training him to be the next coach after Phil leaves. I think he would be a good coach.

Great interview. Very insightful, very honest.

I didn't find BShaw's comments about Kobe negative or suggestive in the least. In fact, quite the opposite. Type-A personalities can be very intimidating. Kobe has this aurora and energy that can be overwhelming because he's so intense about the game. We see it every time he takes the floor. He overwhelms his opponents. But he's not thin-skinned or sensitive. You can talk to him. But he's not gonna take it lying down. You'd better be ready to explain yourself and not back down.

i think we can have a better idea after watching the remaining 2 games against the suns

Bring on SUNS.

Nobody's gonna bash you (well at least I won't) for stating your opinion Keven, you're entitled to think Lakers are going down 4-0.

I don't believe that they will go down that easily and I am starting to think they have a decent chance of winning the series. But of course, that's just my crazy opinion and I'm not gonna call your opinion "stupid" ;)

As for BShaw's comments, that interview was good because it gave a personal look into the team. I think most of it is in the past tense so basically Kobe learned his lesson to involve the team more. Look at him now, he's passing more fluidly and only taking over when the Lakers are losing badly or at the end of a game. If it was a hot issue like at the beginning of the season when he wasn't passing, you're probably right Bonzoa, that stuff should be kept private.

And then again, maybe BShaw just got baited into talking so much by the K-brotha's charming personality. AK/BK, stop that now, yah hear?

I agree that Sasha becomes a better defender this season but he still commits too many unnecessary reaching fouls.

I agree J, those 2 Suns games are gonna be "MUST SEE TV"

If the Lakeshow gets blown out in those games, I'll start checking out the draft prospects for next year, see what's going on in the NfL, concede to Keven, etc, etc.

Gdchild, yeah I like Sasha because he's an annoying defender that can really get under your skin with his grab-ass defense.

But, he needs to learn to back off like you said, especially when the Lakers are ahead with 3 minutes to play. That last game he played, I was groaning when he got his 4th foul in just a few minutes of play and the Lakers ahead by a good #.

Yeh, I don't think Shaw mentioned anything that we don't know yet. It's pretty obvious everyone is scared of Kobe on the team because everytime he asks for the ball it's going there, whereas Kwame never touches the ball when he calls for it. But man that was one of the better interviews I've read in a looong time. Great Job K bro's!

Well done . . .

Most commentors miss the point Shaw was trying to make. It is not a criticism or flaw that Kobe is as confident as he is. It is a strength. However, the team would be better if the better players developed a strong enough mindset to gain Kobe's respect. Their play would have to back that up. You can't complain and shoot 20% and miss layups. Kobe would welcome a few teammates to take the burden off of him and it's starting to happen. They have lost quite a few close games because Kobe bent over backwards and included his teammates in deciding moments of games and they did not come thru. Those were games Kobe could have been selfish and they would be in the sixth position right now, but, they would not be as strong a team going into the playoffs. Kobe does not need to alter his competitive complex, the rest of the team needs to develop similar characteristics backed up by their game. Whoever thinks KG-LO would be a better combination is hallucinating. Kobe is the best player in the league by far and Lamar will only benefit from playing with him. It's starting to show. Don't blame Kobe when Lamar shys from the spotlight. Kobe knows it will make things a lot easier on him for Lamar to step up consistently.

Gee B,

It was linked in an earlier blog.

Funny article.

Brandon,

calling Horry a traitor is just plain stupid! Already forgot that we got Mailman that year? Man, losing Horry was one of the most painful Laker experiences I've had.

The ONLY good thing about San Antonio winning that last championship was that Rob could get his sixth ring. I was very happy for him, even though I wanted Detroit to kick Spurs' whimpy asses.

Much love to Big Shot Rob!

i do respect other's opinions, and i understand all your points of view on the matter, but i have to respectfully disagree on this topic. i'm a fan of ben howland and his style, and of course he speaks alot of wooden and his style, and i just can't imagine wooden or howland's coaching staff going on t.v. and talking about the drama behind the curtain. i know there's a big difference between the ncaa and the nba, but i don't think there's a difference when it comes to class or grace. i love phil jackson just as much as the next laker fan, but i cringe sometimes when he uses the media to coax players. i do think it's smart coaching on one hand, but on the other hand it seems unneccesary. so many people hate on the lakers and hate on kobe, and i think alot of that has to do with the perceived high maintenance psycho-makeup of the team. like people like to think of los angeles. can't the lakers return to form and bring some class to this city? make people respect the ballclub and it's rituals like people respect the bruins now and their class? i think howland sets a good example, like the piston's team play does, about what pro sports could be about, and how entirely complicated and difficult and grand it is all at once to create a true 'warrior' mentality as a team. and shaw certainly is a member of the team. i know i'm a super idealist, but what the hell, i love the lakers and i love this city and i think it's time it matures and demands respect.

Absolutely sensational interview BK! Well done! It is because of these type of insights that I have become a fan of this page. Keep up the good work! Brian Shaw was a great performer for the Lakers. Who can ever forget his game 7 against Portland in 2000? Without him, there is no threepeat. You can Shaq and Kobe me to death, but it was B.Shaw and Bob Horry who pulled that team through the fire and gave them the confidence to win. That is why B.Shaw can criticize Kobe when he feels he has to. He has earned the right and he has earned Kobe's respect. Kobe knows exactly what Shaw did under the toughest of circumstances and I believe that coming from Coach Shaw, Kobe will view his input as constructive criticism because he knows that Brian has team success at the top of his agenda.

K Brothers,

Once again, a fantastic interview! I have always like Shaw; his poise, his demeanor, and the way he always conducted himself out on the basketball floor. He was one of those players that knew he wasn’t blessed with the talents of a Jordan or a Kobe, yet played the game with grace and had an impact of the game that could not be measured in statistics. There is no doubt he will be a good NBA coach. A great one? Who knows? But I am sure he will get his chance to be.

One thing I admire about Shaw is that he pulls no punches about Kobe. Shaw seems to be the one person that gets through to Kobe, so I love the fact that Shaw calls them like he sees them.

I am still up in the air as to how Kobe came out looking from this interview. K Brothers, I know how easily you can take these things for granted since you are around these players all the time and see things the average fan does not (and that doesn’t include all of your “off-the-record” stuff) but it’s interesting to read the honest perception of Shaw as to how he views some of these little things that occur within the team.

From this interview, I can conclude that Kobe is not a true leader. A leader would say “I will lead you to victory, follow me”. Kobe says “I’ll do this my damn self, get out of my way”. There is no other way to look at it. As Shaw says, Kobe is a great player, arguably the best player after Jordan left the game, so you take the good with the bad. In my opinion, it is this “bad” that make Kobe inferior to Jordan (the Jordan that woke up and realized that he cannot win every game by himself). Having a mindset of “even with three people on me, I feel I have a better chance of making it than one of my teammates who’s wide open” is not a good one. He needs to grow out of it.

Now I understand why people are so down on him. You’d be a fool if you didn’t take him on your team. But at the same time it’s a compromise, which is a shame given his talent. You’re compromising teamwork, team play, and team cohesion. When you put players of his caliber on your team you shouldn’t have to do that. No one ever felt they were compromising anything when they put Magic, Jordan, or Kareem on their team. Kobe needs to get to that level, then, maybe, he will become the leader everyone hopes he can be.

All that being said, Kobe is still the best player in the game talent-wise. In regards to pure talent, I think his game is closer to Jordan’s than most people give Kobe credit for. No other player in the league is as complete as Kobe is; he can hit the 3, the 18-foot jumpshot. He can hang, glide, hit the fadeaway, out-dribble his defender, make impossible shots, drive, dunk, hit his freethrows. He can also play lock down defense, and no amount of pressure is insurmountable for him. He has a killer instinct that cannot be taught; and instinct to kill his opponent, on both sides of the ball. Name ONE player in the league that can do ALL of those things? Name ONE. You can’t . So don’t bother trying to tell me that Wade can hit a jump shot or a three, or that Lebron can do the same and take shots under pressure. It’s ludicrous to compare these guys to Kobe. Maybe in the future, IF they develop these intangibles, they can be compared to Kobe, but not now.

I just hope Kobe matures enough (he’s only 27) to become a great leader. If he does that, the REAL argument concerning the best player to ever play the game will have 2 names: Kobe and Jordan.

I think that many of you have taken the wrong spin on Brian Shaw's comments concerning Kobe Bryant. If the Laker players begin to focus on this whol econcept of standing up to Kobe as if that is a major concern, it will end up ruining the team. It's not about standing up to Kobe or any player for that matter....It's about trust. Trust can not be expected where trust has not beeen earned. Children can't be expected to give even their parents a certain level of respect if they haven't demonstrated the necessary attributes to warrant it.

Two factors played into Kobe accepting the words from his former team....first he was much younger, and secondly, they were all on the same level for the most part (non-champions except for Horry, Salley, Horace and AC Green). Why do you think Kobe started firing back at Shaq? Shaq demonstrated that he lacked true respect for Kobe by his comments and actions. He also didn't have exhibit some of the attributes which Kobe has which are key to his success.

Just the simple fact that Kobe is being patient with his teammates, should be reason for him to get the Nobel Peace Prize. He tolerates the growing pains right now much better than most would in his position. How flexible was Magic when he tried to coach for 15 games? How flexible was Michael his whole time in Washington?

In closing, a child can offer words of wisdom, however, how many people would feel comfortable allowing that child to be their main advisor?

GEE El,

What does that article have to do with anything relevant to this blog? I'm not one to make jokes about religion, but how did that topic even come up in a post game interview? You have to ask yourself if the person asking the question was even serious, or if they meant it in a joking manner. And if it is want meant to be a joke (once again I don't make jokes about religion) you can't expect Kobe to automatically take it seriously, and give his true feelings on Jews in sports. I still don't see the relevance in that question, and I think it was a stupid question to even ask.

Kwame Brown talk on Lakers radio that before the game, Brian Shaw works with Brown a lot, now Brown playing better, we should give Shaw good credit for helping Brown. When Phil retire, i like to see Brian Shaw to coach Lakers. Brian Shaw help Laker to win first championship against Portland, at that time Shaq and Kobe still learn how to win close game, we never forget Brian Shaw.

Gee,
That's old news.

Gee El,

Because that article totally sucks.

The interview gives a lot of insight into how difficult it must be to coach Kobe. Hopefully he'll mellow with age in that regard.

Randall,
Being confident is great. Being unwilling to work within the system and use your teammates in the most effective manner is not great. And Kobe's belief in himself causes him to cross the line into that area too often, to the point where it affects the success of both him and the team. He has not learned yet how to walk that fine line.

The comment made by Kobe about shooting better with three guys on him than a teammate that is wide open was made four or five years ago. Sure, we still see it from time to time, but overall Kobe is much better at working within the system. I honestly don't think Kobe would be that difficult to coach anymore. I would assume the Shaq being traded and missing the playoffs shed some light on things for him, but most of all you have to chalk up his development to getting older and maturing. If anything I would assume Phil, BShaw, and any coach anywhere would love to have a player that works harder than anyone and never quits on anything. It makes the moments where he goes off on his selfish tangents a little easier to swallow.

Randall,

The LO-KG duo and trade Kobe thing I mentioned earlier was completely in jest. I was just saying that if LO had half the confidence and competitive spirit that Kobe had, we would by far be one of the best teams in the league because LO would be unstoppable.

I sat down with Brian Shaw for an interview a couple of weeks ago and really enjoyed it. I first interviewed him as a rookie for the Celtics and have talked to him many times over the years. Anyway, I was feeling smug because my recent interview with him was just outstanding. I really did a great job, I remember thinking. Then I read your interview, and it was even better. It shows two things: 1) how good you guys are; 2) what an exceptional person Shaw is.
I've always been impressed by him. Pro basketball suffers from a paucity of truth tellers. Shaw, though, knows how to offer only the truth. His frankness in interviews goes such a long way toward explaining the fine details of the game to reporters and fans alike. The demanding personality of Kobe Bryant comes through, just as Jordan's or Bird's does when you speak with their former teammates.
Congratulations on truly exceptional work with an exceptional interview subject.

Roland Lazenby
author of The Show

For L.O. to be unstoppable, he would need to develop a mid-range game. He get so many charges called on him when he drives into the paint, when he should have just pulled up and hit the mid range shot over the defender.

Wow Roland's back, havent seen him post on here in a while.

lolo;
I agree with you.Kobe is my favourite player but to be honest if I were a basketballer I wouldn't want to play with him.
roland lazenby ;
welcome back. :)

KB8 Fan,

You're absolutely right. If he works on a mid-range pull up jumper and utilizing his right hand more in the offseason, we will be back in the elite teams next year.

Roland,

Great to see you back.

His lack or uninterest of bringing up Lamar as a key point to a LAKERS discussion just proves how irrelevant lamar is to the team. he would NEVER stand up for what he believes in, especially if it meant countering Kobe. thats not a 2nd option. we need a partner for kobe that will make things happen. not wait for things to happen

Dido,

I think many players tolerate playing with Kobe (quite or not I’m sure there’s a few players on our team that would love to take a swing at him) because he gives you a chance to win every night because he is so good.

The real question is: can the Lakers win without a leader?

Well, I don’t think you can win a championship without a leader. I don’t think you can bring in a leader because he will end up clashing with Kobe. A leader would tell Kobe to “knock that sh1t off when he passes up his open teammates. The only solution is that Kobe needs to turn himself into a leader. I am not saying he isn’t capable, all I’m saying is that he is our only option, and he isn’t a leader at this point in time. The day Kobe turns into a leader is the day we return to glory. Otherwise there will always be dysfunction in the clubhouse.

Players like Shaw and Horry thrived in our recent run of championships as leaders without interference from Kobe because 1) They had been there done that, 2) Kobe was less vocal because for the most part he knew his role, 3) Shaq was there to punch him (allegedly) every time he got out of line. In our current scenario, 1) there aren’t many players in this leagues who can say they have been there done that more than Kobe (hello 3 rings), 2) Kobe’s role has changed, and 3) there are no Shaqs around to physically intimidate him.

I think Kobe will grow up and become more of a leader. He has to, or else we need to get used to 1st-2nd round bounce outs like we did in the 90s before Phil.

Roland's back! Right on!

I think Kobe is developing into a leader. People want to focus on Kobe verbally abusing guys like Sasha, but there are plenty of times when we see Kobe pointing out where a guy needs to be, or patting them on the butt after a bad play.

And I think that we've also seen Kobe look to spread the ball around more than 81. A guy can't just turn around and become a team leader, it's something that has to develop over time.

KG is the guy to bring in to balance Kobe out. If Buss is serious, he should try to get KG to LA. I hope that we could keep LO but if he has to go to bring in KG then it has to be done -- period.

In fact, the way Kwame has played against the very top big guys this year I would rather keep him and trade LO for KG!

Thank you, folks, for the kind comments. I've missed you guys.
An observation: Funny that Brian Shaw's revealing interview becomes the opportunity to trash Lamar Odom again.
Pippen wasn't around in his first seasons with the Bulls because he challenged or stood up to Michael. He was around because he took pressure off of Michael. And he only began doing that once he got accustomed to the offense. Once he got Michael's respect, it was no longer a matter of standing up to him.
Lamar Odom is just starting his breakthrough with the triangle offense. How about giving him some time to show just how good he can be in it? Before, he was too busy learning the offense to demand anything of Kobe.
As for Kobe, he's doing his job as superstar/team leader. He's setting a demanding standard for the group. Jordan was a terrorist with his teammates. They had to step up or slink away.
The dynamic of the Laker chemistry is just starting to unfold. Look at Kwame (ain't life grand?). Give them a little time to cook as a group. Just maybe a little playoff run this year. And major strides for '07.

Roland Lazenby
author of The Show

Joe Spinelli,

Only problem is with the money KG makes, the Lakers would be forced to trade Lamar AND Kwame in a deal for KG to make the salaries match up. It's the way the league is structured. I used to yell and scream to bring in KG at all costs, but I'm not so sure anymore. I couldn't see stripping our whole team down for that one guy, and then with KG and Kobe's salary we would have nothing left to spend on the rest of the team and would end up having a bunch of scrubs. It's a sticky situation, but if LO and Kwame continue with their current level of play through the rest of the regular season and the playoffs, the Laker front office might be looking at a completely different game plan.

good point Roland L.

Roland,

Could you imagine any team wanting to face these Lakers in the playoffs this year? I mean, with Phil and Kobe you know what you're going to get, but the biggest knock on this team has been the other guys not "getting it" and "not fulfilling potential", but now we see LO and Kwame making big strides and the team has put together a nice little streak. I would think that in a strange way the Lakers have nothing to lose and this might cause other teams to be a little weary. DO you think the guys realize any of this or are they still just pumped to finally be putting the pieces together?

roland Lazenby, welcome back. Your insights are much appreciated.

K Brothers do a better job interviewing/covering the Lakers b/c they appear to not have the anti-Kobe angenda, which are held by the most of the paper staff especially the 3 stooges of the sports section.

Robert Horry is a traitor! He's playing for the Spurs. I hope he doesn't pull off any of his heroics tonight.

But it's mostly a joke. I love Horry aka that Wil Smith look-alike dude, it's painful to see him thriving over there with the Spurs instead of the Lakers. He said he wanted to go back home to his family which was mostly true. On a side note, I think he was sick and tired of the feud going on between Shaq and Kobe. Such a shame.

Still one of my favorite players of all time..he has that charisma.

Andrew Z,
You're right. A Phil Jackson-coached team is always something to fear in the playoffs. With these guys starting to play well, there's plenty of reason for optimism. Mainly, they'll learn a lot this year about being in the playoffs. That's another important lesson. They'll learn, that after months dreading the triangle, the playoffs are when other teams dread the triangle.
Still, for the team to be really successful in the postseason, they'll need another year in it. There are so many intricate details, so many options available, once the team gets comfortable. When the Bulls ran the offense from 96-98, the coaches had so many things in their bag of tricks. They could always spring surprises during the playoffs that they hadn't used during the regular season. It's hard to imagine it right now, but there could come a day when this team could put together a three-peat. When the offense gets clicking with the right talent, it's that powerful.
But that's a little ahead of the story. Next year, Kwame will be a double-double guy and a defensive stopper. Lamar will come to think of himself as an expert in the triangle. He'll come to understand how to control the tempo of a game much the way Pippen did.
And Kobe will still be Kobe.
GDchild, thanks much for your comments.

Roland Lazenby
author of The Show

It IS great to read such an interview in which the person is so open about so many issues. On the other hand, it sure doesn't help when it comes to "recruiting" free agents and they aren't sure about how Kobe is. Kobe is still maturing and he can become a great leader. But these type of interviews and Phil's book will always be in the background and the perception will be there. There are times when certain things HAVE to stay "in the locker room".

Well, it looks like they'll have to step up because there aren't a lot of major free agents around.

When this club matures its going to be very interesting because the entire nature of the team will built around those who could be mentally strong enough to work with Kobe (and Phil). On a positive note, I imagine that will result in a very mentally tough team (like most Phil Jackson teams tend to be).

It's hard to beat a mentally tough team.

Roland,

Do you think that Bynum has the potential to be that mentally tough>

In regards to LO starting to "get the Tri", he has been in the league for 7years. His early problems are the same he has had throughout his career. He lacks a 15ft. games, as tex mentioned he is not a closer OR finisher.His decision making as proven is avg. at best.
So i understand that he is getting more comfortable in the tri, but his history is of a non-chalante approach to game and inconsistency. His #'s have virtually been the same since his rookie year which is nice, but thats it. LO is what he is a nice role player with fairly gaudy stats but little impact. He is not proactive. Being mentioned in the same breath as pip is embarassing.Any team with LO as its 1st or 2nd best player will never be a serious contender. 3rd option maybe. It has been proven his whole career

Hey
wasn't it the Lakers who chose not to re-sign horry?
I think Horry would've stuck around. Especially since Shaq was out the door there was no feud to deal with.

So, no Horry's no traitor. Lakers shafted him. It sucks that he's playing for the Spurs. Gah I hate them.

Good interview. Very informative, I thought. There's a reason I keep reading this thing...

I wonder how many people are going to call Brian Shaw a hater now for saying what's been so obvious? Kobe is a fantastic talent who doesn't always play smart because he doesn't think anything's impossible and he doesn't trust his teammates. And he hasn't learned how to lead yet, because he's got this team scared of him rather than playing with him. If he ever gets that down, sky's the limit for this team.

I, for one, honestly believe that Kobe would welcome a more aggressive set of teammates who would step up in big moments of tight games. But those type of things have to be learned and come with experience. It took the 3peat Lakers time to develop. It's no different now. These players must prove that they can come through when the chips are down. A previous champion like Kobe has been there and done that. The rest of the crew have to earn his respect and trust. The man is not stupid...he would love to see his teammates succeed.

Thanks Roland.

As for Kobe causing problems in "recruiting" free agents, I don't want weak minded people that are turned off by a guy who is so determined to work hard and win. If they want to lollygag around and goof off they can go try and get a ring in Miami.

FACE!

Its too bad that Jim Rome and Brian don't get along although both went to UCSB. Jim hypes up everyone else that went to that school but finds a reason to bad mouth Brian.

S.Tan,

You're right. I met Robert Horry and he was way cool.

The Lakers didn't resign him, it wasn't like he jumped ship.

And he will also always hold a special place in my heart for those game winners against hated Portland and San Antonio.

Ole, ole, ole, Gau-chos, Gau-chos!

The Shoe

Lamar's not a alpha male. That's true. Can't change that. But that's not required to win championships. Are there 2 alpha males on the Spurs? what about Detriot? point is championship is won by the whole "team".

ok, so lamar's mid range game isnt great.... he's only 26. what were you doing when you were 26? and name a couple more complete fowards with his size and versitality other than KG. marion is great.... does he have a mid range or post up game? he either drunks or shot that ugly 3 pter. what about melo? can he avg 10 boards and 5 assist? Dirk cant defend or rack up 8 or 9 assists. can Jermaine or brand, both got great midrange games, stroke the 3s?

The Shoe, points are not the only thing that matters. you should appreciate what he's doing cause you aint gonna find a handful whos more complete than lamar. and to say he'll never get the balls to stand up to kobe... did we forget that fight where securities had to sit between them on the bus? and how is someone still learning gonna say hey kobe, you're doing this wrong? after he knows the ins and outs of the triangle, then he's got the right to talk about whats the right thing to do.

o.k first of all, we have some delusional nba fans out there who think the lakers might actually win the series against the suns......am i crazy? have any of you been watching the nba this year?? team kobe will go down in 5 games and thats a stretch....first of all, smush parker couldnt stay in front of me, much less um whats phonenix's point guards name? oh yeah, the mvp of the league,steve nash....lamar odom or as some people put it "LO" i dont think hes good enough to go by initials, so lets call him Lamar couldnt carry Shawn Marions jockstrap and will be in foul trouble every single game or wait lets keep comparing Lamar to scottie, how many playoff games have Lamar played in again? and dwayne wade was the best player on that team, so please all you fakers out there....wait until a miracle happens and a good free agent decides they want to play with Kobe (which wont happen by the way) you think Amare would want to play will a ball hog like kobe? biggest mistake was trading away the diesel.....live with it faker fans....

Joe,

You're probably right, but I will completely give in to any pro-Lakers delusion during the playoffs.

Our coach is Phil Jackson and our star is Kobe Bryant.

These guys have made a career at making the impossible possible.

GO LAKERS!

The Lakers need Charles Oakley. If at his advanced age, his inside toughness would greatly help this team. They give up so many layups. Oak would stop much of that and add a dimension to this team that is sorely missing. Did you think Rick Fox was just another pretty face? Remember his work against the Queens.


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